Radcliffe says she's not releasing blood values

How is Radcliffe able to continue with her role for the BBC without addressing her anomalous blood values?

The BBC in general have shown incredible bias throughout these championships. I feel Radcliffe is very, very safe with the same old BBC pundits deflecting all attention onto Gatlin etc. One can only hope that another news outlet/ journalist keeps this story alive.

Michael Johnson is going full Paula Radcliffe mode on the BBC now

Absolute brass neck considering what he almost certainly got away with

Paula has just dropped into the BBC studios. Conveniently shortly after their long discussion on doping had ended.

hubbahubba wrote:

Paula has just dropped into the BBC studios. Conveniently shortly after their long discussion on doping had ended.

She's back with the anti doping crusade on twitter

But avoiding doping discussion for now

BBC bias wrote:

How is Radcliffe able to continue with her role for the BBC without addressing her anomalous blood values?

The BBC in general have shown incredible bias throughout these championships. I feel Radcliffe is very, very safe with the same old BBC pundits deflecting all attention onto Gatlin etc. One can only hope that another news outlet/ journalist keeps this story alive.

I guess that you should stop following coverage on the BBC. Maybe write them an email explaining why you are not following their coverage anymore.

I really hope that Seppelt manages to blow the whole thing open and take these guys down. He has had a good track record of doing so in other sports with East German swimming and cycling but I somehow feel that he is up against it this time going against the IAAF.

BBC bias wrote:

How is Radcliffe able to continue with her role for the BBC without addressing her anomalous blood values?

The BBC in general have shown incredible bias throughout these championships. I feel Radcliffe is very, very safe with the same old BBC pundits deflecting all attention onto Gatlin etc. One can only hope that another news outlet/ journalist keeps this story alive.

Very likely the IAAF defines content with the broadcast agreement. Implying the sport's more visible former athlete was dope fueled fraud would be outside the agreement.

Most broadcast content is very, very highly structured so there is no opportunity to "peak behind the curtain."

Jaded Jonny wrote:

BBC bias wrote:

How is Radcliffe able to continue with her role for the BBC without addressing her anomalous blood values?

The BBC in general have shown incredible bias throughout these championships. I feel Radcliffe is very, very safe with the same old BBC pundits deflecting all attention onto Gatlin etc. One can only hope that another news outlet/ journalist keeps this story alive.

I guess that you should stop following coverage on the BBC. Maybe write them an email explaining why you are not following their coverage anymore.

I really hope that Seppelt manages to blow the whole thing open and take these guys down. He has had a good track record of doing so in other sports with East German swimming and cycling but I somehow feel that he is up against it this time going against the IAAF.

I wrote to them about my views before the Games started. They've played a canny game with having Jo Pavey in the studio, then the PR one to one interview video then PR in the studio not talking about drugs. Highly convenient.

What we've been denied is a face to face debate between the 'publish' and 'don't publish' factions. And the reason for that is the the don't publish group would look stupid and worse, doping suspects.

Blatant total avoidance by the BBC of mention of the release of blood values by british athletes!!!

absolutely outrageous omission and we know why

I did think the first interview on BBC with Radcliffe was interesting. She had to address the issue straight on (even though she knew the questions ahead of time). The BBC and Radcliffe must know that people are assuming it's her with the suspicious blood values, but when you search the internet the only discussion of it is on Letsrun and that digger forum. I really think this message board is an impediment for BBC and Radcliffe to sweeping the issue under the rug. WHen this thread went super hot there were surely thousands of serious running fans that saw. There were even a couple athletes that messaged her on twitter asking why she won't release her blood values (one is a british marathon runner I believe) and others have taken digs at her by leaving messages on her twitter about her blood values for everyone to see. The fact that she's letting this spread without squashing it by releasing the data with an explanation makes me think the data is extremely damning.

I don't care about harry potter's blood values.

Where is Paula anyway? I saw on twitter that she's leaving Beijing? I would think the woman's marathon would be her big commentary role.

She has been absent for the doping discussions. Perhaps the marathon is too close to home! She might be asked how she best prepared for the big race!

Rational realist wrote:

NUFCrichard wrote:

Sorry, I have worked in a Haematology lab, haematocrit can be over 50% in healthy people who aren't doping.

I had iron deficient anaemia a few years ago and would test my own blood to monitor my recovery, a friend of mine donated blood for an experiment and had well over 50% HCT.

I think the highest naturally recorded adult HCT level is about 60% in a cross country skiier. Just looking online shows normal value ranges up at, or near to, 50% for men, when dehydrated that would rise.

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Do you consult with the doctors on the patients health? Your friend had a health problem. Highly trained athletes naturally lower their hematocrit due to autohemodilution. The range given for the hematocrit test accounts for dehydration or else they would have to send dehydrated people to the hospital.

NUFCrichard wrote:

Sorry, I have worked in a Haematology lab, haematocrit can be over 50% in healthy people who aren't doping.

I had iron deficient anaemia a few years ago and would test my own blood to monitor my recovery, a friend of mine donated blood for an experiment and had well over 50% HCT.

I think the highest naturally recorded adult HCT level is about 60% in a cross country skiier. Just looking online shows normal value ranges up at, or near to, 50% for men, when dehydrated that would rise.

"WHAT IS THE NORMAL RANGE OF HEMATOCRIT FOR ADULTS?

In males 19 years or older, the normal range of hematocrit is between 41 and 50%. In females 19 years or older, the normal range of hematocrit is between 36 and 44%. These values may be different at different hospitals depending on the equipment used to measure the hematocrit."

The EPO Up There wrote:

I don't doubt your clinical expertise but xc skiers are some of the most notorious EPO/ blood dopers in all of sport

http://www.sportsci.org/jour/0101/ss.htmhttp://www.sportsci.org/news/news9701/EPOfeat.htmlhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/23/us-olympics-doping-austria-idUSBREA1M05V20140223

That 60% seems way out of line and indicative of doping.

The referred to XC skier might have been Eero Mantyranta, a 1960s/70s athlete with a mutated erythropoietin receptor gene:

So his blood values really were naturally extremely high.

However what you say about doping in xc skiing is true as well - the same guy, Eero Mantyranta, was caught for stimulants once.

where she go? wrote:

Where is Paula anyway? I saw on twitter that she's leaving Beijing? I would think the woman's marathon would be her big commentary role.

She's back in the studio on the sofa right now. Jo Pavey conveniently isn't there otherwise it might get people wondering about their contrasting attitudes to hiding test results

During the womens World Champs marathon Tim Hutchings commenting on Eurosport said Paula Radcliffe was devastated and nearly in tears when she heard convicted doper Liliya Shobukhova had had her doping ban reduced for helping the authorities with their investigations.

My heart goes out to Paula along with a question: When will you be releasing your blood values Paula?

Question for Paula wrote:

During the womens World Champs marathon Tim Hutchings commenting on Eurosport said Paula Radcliffe was devastated and nearly in tears when she heard convicted doper Liliya Shobukhova had had her doping ban reduced for helping the authorities with their investigations.

My heart goes out to Paula along with a question: When will you be releasing your blood values Paula?

What was the context? For him to even bring that up id assume he knows and is poking fun

Paula trained at altitude for several months each year, often slept in an altitude tent at home.

Her blood values may be anomolous despite not being guilty of any infraction.

Paula has said that at present, if blood values were released - those values might be mis interpreted, hence Paula's reluctance to release those values.

Sooner or later her values will be released, but when that happens 'better science' will be needed to dis culpate her.

Ghost in Khon Khaen, Thailand