3 dates - no kiss

rojo wrote:

The road to anal will be long.

I don't think you can jump to conclusions from the slow pace of progress on the first few dates. People move awkwardly when they care a lot.

I agree. I've had several very hot women "friends" who turned out to be a poor investment of time and money. Reality was, they were marking time until they could find someone "better" in their minds, and out with anyone so they weren't sitting home Saturday nights and feeling like a loser. I got a few nowhere kisses and hugs and then the brush off.

But first, I'd check out this chick out on that there Interweb, could be clues on the Facebook page, etc. that will help you decide to go for it and/or kick her to the curb, or both. But don't be a fool, and cover your tool.

Historian wrote:

"hang out" she uses those words, then she does not consider you a date.

I know you are not going to like this, but the only thing that will help is to blow her off for a few days. It works, I'm serious. Don't return any texts, . Don't answer any calls. Don't do anything for at least a week. Then answer a call and act like you might not be available, etc.

You see, men are different than women. A woman will always wonder " what did I do wrong?" if they are interested in you. If she quits calling or showing any interest, then you have your answer. If she does call a few times and leaves text messages asking you to call or get back to her, then you'll know you have her right where you want her.

Yeah, do this right after you 'neg' her a few times...

Friendzone Spotter wrote:

Newflash: you've not been going on dates

this.

The fact that he's on here showing how his feelings are hurt is the laughable part. 'oh, you hurt my feelings.'

Here's the thing.

If your mentality is that you're 'putting in x' and you're going to 'get out y' then you should be learning to pimp instead.

Going to places doesn't owe you anything.

Oh FFS, man-up wrote:

Next time she calls you, tell her you enjoy spending time with her, but you were hoping this was leading to something more than friendship, so you want to know what she thinks.

Very good answer. It is direct and takes action.

pop_pop! wrote:

Oh FFS, man-up wrote:

Next time she calls you, tell her you enjoy spending time with her, but you were hoping this was leading to something more than friendship, so you want to know what she thinks.

Very good answer. It is direct and takes action.

Except that it appears that he has not made any moves on her. He says that he leans toward her as she is getting out of the car...? WTF is that?

My guess is that if he tried this, she would probably reply with something along the lines of, "Yeah, that is what I was thinking, too. But apparently you haven't been man enough to make a move."

He needs to ask her out tonight and make a move.

Why are you people all so passive-aggressive? Flirting over text? Scared to kiss?

Welcome to the NEET kissless virgin foreveralone lifestyle LLC

women are looking for a man that will provide the following:

A steady income, and/or good job

A healthy, good-looking head of hair

A man who knows how to satisfy a woman. No 5 minute quick-draw

A decent, car that is not too macho, but not embarrassing

Wears nice clothes.

Grooming- ear and nasal hairs.

Studly wrote:

women are looking for a man that will provide the following:

A steady income, and/or good job

A healthy, good-looking head of hair

A man who knows how to satisfy a woman. No 5 minute quick-draw

A decent, car that is not too macho, but not embarrassing

Wears nice clothes.

Grooming- ear and nasal hairs.

And no skid marks

Friends ladder.

Reference The Ladder Theory.

I'm sure someone here has already told you the score.

rojo wrote:

What is her history like? Is it possible she's like a virgin or very inexperienced? I can think of a few scenarios.

1) She's very inexperienced and scared (or perhaps very religious).

2) A complete psycho but this seems unlikely as you are spending a ton of time hanging out together and talking so that's on you if she's able to fool you for hours.

God knows, any woman who won't submit to a man after three dates must be a psycho. What does the think, she can just lead a guy on like that and not give up something? She's begging for it, she can't expect to have nothing happen. It's her own fault, afterall.

sarcasm wrote:

God knows, any woman who won't submit to a man after three dates must be a psycho. What does the think, she can just lead a guy on like that and not give up something? She's begging for it, she can't expect to have nothing happen. It's her own fault, afterall.

Good grief, there sure are a lot of loser men in the world.

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I'm sorry it took 4 pages for a woman to chime in but...

Friend zone.

Yeah maybe read the four effin' pages prior to chiming in.

What to do? wrote:

We're both in our mid/late 20s and I have had all kinds of relationships - long term, 1-night stands, vanilla, extremely kinky, and so forth.

This particular woman I enjoy greatly. We're aligned in terms of what we like to do, our goals, etc. and that is the primary reason I continue to see her even after 3 'hefty' dates (lasting several hours) with zero physical interaction.

I've tried to 'move in' if I drop her off at her home, but she seems to dart out of the car very quickly. At this point I assume she's not interested, but I get texts later on asking me how I'm doing and if I can hang out again.

So I'm just looking for some nice ways to move in and kiss her.

Thanks.....honestly.

Instead of sleeping, watching a movie, or writing a Justin Gatlin article on my flight to Hong Kong (my direct flight to Beijing got cancelled so I'm in for the long haul), I'm reading this thread.

I am the last one to ask for dating advice, but am curious what the hell is happening at the end of the date. You said, "I've tried to 'move in' if I drop her off at her home, but she seems to dart out of the car very quickly. "

What are you doing in the car, climbing over the center console and she's jumping out? Leaning her way, etc.

Either way, man up, be a gentleman, walk your date to her house. At the very least then you'd get a hug. Maybe she just wants a man who will walk her to the door and she's wondering, "Why the hell is he still sitting in the car?" I don't think it's just a southern thing to walk someone to the door is it?

What to do? wrote:

We're both in our mid/late 20s and I have had all kinds of relationships - long term, 1-night stands, vanilla, extremely kinky, and so forth.

This particular woman I enjoy greatly. We're aligned in terms of what we like to do, our goals, etc. and that is the primary reason I continue to see her even after 3 'hefty' dates (lasting several hours) with zero physical interaction.

I've tried to 'move in' if I drop her off at her home, but she seems to dart out of the car very quickly. At this point I assume she's not interested, but I get texts later on asking me how I'm doing and if I can hang out again.

So I'm just looking for some nice ways to move in and kiss her.

Thanks.....honestly.

It isn't a good sign if you've been on three long dates and still haven't kissed her. You need to casually touch her to gauge her reaction. For example, touch her arm while you are talking to her, but you have to do this in a way that does not come across as awkward or creepy.

Another key factor is whether you have been primarily paying for dates. If you have been the one paying but have not gotten some good kisses by now, you are almost certainly wasting your time.

Some women will waste your time and money by going out with men they aren't interested in - a lot of women are bored and will spend time with men they aren't attracted to simply because the men are paying. You want to avoid women like this because it will kill your confidence if you spend too much time and effort on that type of woman.

Studly wrote:

women are looking for a man that will provide the following:

A steady income, and/or good job

A healthy, good-looking head of hair

A man who knows how to satisfy a woman. No 5 minute quick-draw

A decent, car that is not too macho, but not embarrassing

Wears nice clothes.

Grooming- ear and nasal hairs.

Don't forget decent teeth and breath, too. (This post brought to you by the American Dental Association and Johnson & Johnson, makers of Listerine, a registered trademark.)

Have you tried lying and saying that you're rich?