Can't we all admit the obvious? Symmonds isn't in shape, knows it and wants to get kicked of Team USA as it's great PR

rojo wrote:

There was already a thread with this theory over the weekend.Actually, looking at it, there are 2 other threads all debating his fitness.

Nick Symmonds: "I'm in shape right now to win a medal."

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Can't we all admit the obvious? Symmonds isn't in shape, knows it and wants to get kicked of Team USA as it's great PR

I've merged all of the threads into one now.

It seems likely to me he's not in great shape. Just because that's likely true and that may have something to do with his willingness to take a stand, doesn't mean he doesn't have legitimate points to make.

-Rojo

Symmonds is a master at PR. On that front, there is no doubt. He says he considers himself a businessman first, runner 2nd.

The abbreviation, while standing for the term "Public Relations..." "Public Relations" being a term coined by Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud.

Essentiall, public relations is the exercise of using the "heard mentality" of human nature, to manipulate the public into believing what you want them to believe.

This is why 4 out of 5 doctors recommended Chesterfield cigarettes.

Symmond is not a master at PR, per say, he is adept and seeking and gaining attention when he wants to by using his looks, decent intelligence, and his athletic ability to gain attention -- but he totally loses the PR capacity when he uses unstatesmen-like terms such as "that's dog shiht" and "that's bullcrahp."

A true master of PR is able to seek and gain attention, and use the perfect combo of seeming logic -- and in this case the appearance of unfairness or exploitation, and speak...well like a leader and statesmen and not get over amped and fall into the crutch of profanity like "dog shiht."

He got pretty close there, but he's no master of PR. He is good at seeking attention and getting it.

I'm sure the Seattle Brooks "Run Happy" team are making up "That's Dog Shiht" rubber wrist bands to hand out at Brooks Nationals next season.

There are true "masters" of PR, and Nick isn't it. A master of PR plans for, and succeeds at getting more than 15 minutes of fame.

XFlT_guy_the_real_1 wrote:

I saw him at American Ninja Warrior

Failed after the first obstacle, lol.

So, yes, he is out of shape.

But you could see that by simply looking at him. He is SKINNY/SCRAWNY and has basically zero muscle. Compare that to the PHYSIQUE of the likes of Rich Froning, broad shoulders, thick back, massive chest, huge biceps...

My first thought in regards to your observation is not politically correct, so I will not post it.

Not in my book wrote:

With promotion of the "beer" mile, his failed attempt to nail Paris Hilton and his grandstanding for grandstanding sake, I'd rather not have this joker representing track and field to the masses.

Nick even had a CHANCE to bang Paris Hilton? Go Nick!

the problem with nick is that he won't bang stephanie hightower.

it is a hell has no wrath like a scorned woman type deal.

it's about petty power.

if nick was banging her, he'd be getting ustaf athlete awards on a regular basis.

this is the way it works.

symmionds season looks to be shaping up really well.

to do well at the worlds, you can't peak a few months earlier so nick's b game was good enough to win the trials, which means in theory he's near PB shape, if he can produce on the day after peaking, that is backing off from the heavy work for a couple or three weeks.

What if he this is all a cover for the fact that he doesn't trust himself not to deface the American flag?

If Symmonds really wanted to do this he would have taken this to court BEFORE the deadline. As it stands he just didn't sign the paper and with the exception of wording in a contract there will be no real change.

USATF will continue to be a joke. We have larger earninging and prize purses in every sport, even video game competitions surpass track.

This is nothing but talk. No real change.

It's an easy out for Nick to avoid sure humiliation at worlds. When Nick is in top 800m shape he can run BOTH a 3.35 1500m and a 47 400m. He's not close to that, and was maxed at nationals. Judging by his recent workout on Flotrack and the 48.5 he just ran, he's probably come off the boil from his season peak at Nationals. He's probably happier with the publicity and avoiding the inevitable asskicking at Worlds.

The athletes are more concerned about the IAAF blood test coverups than having to wear team USA gear in the hotel lobby.

It does not matter if Nick can medal or not. 90% of the people at worlds won't medal, should they also not go? They earned the right to compete at worlds and so did Nick. This is not a conversation about how fit a person is, it is about the governing body serving the athletes best interest and not their own/Nike's.

By securing such an awesome sponsorship from Nike, USATF is serving the athletes' interests. Imagine the ruckus if USATF didn't get sponsorship. Nationals would look like the Flowtrack Throwdown.

Thank you Alan Abrahamson. You really nailed it. He busts out all the REAL information. No hype. Just the facts.

http://www.3wiresports.com/2015/08/11/calvin-coolidges-ghost-nick-symmonds-spirit-animal/