not to worry he is busy training for the sub 43 second 400m race from the other thread.
not to worry he is busy training for the sub 43 second 400m race from the other thread.
Rudiger wrote:
A question: Can anyone explain what purpose a race like this serves? We're still a few weeks out from worlds and his kick by no means has to be finely tuned yet. Is it just breaking through for better workouts until then?
A finely tuned kick??? Dude, the pace of his last lap is a pace he used to hold for a full mile. That's not a kick. That's mile pace. Something is seriously wrong with his fitness. At no point in the year should anyone's kick be slower than their mile PR.
Rudiger wrote:
Judging by the earlier posts I thought he had finished dead last by a few seconds. What did the guys ahead of him close in 56-57? Not particularly impressive either if you were expecting blazing splits.
With Rupp, its always hard to judge anything from his first race from an extended break. There's always the chance this year is different but history tells us he'll be fit and sharp enough come worlds.
A question: Can anyone explain what purpose a race like this serves? We're still a few weeks out from worlds and his kick by no means has to be finely tuned yet. Is it just breaking through for better workouts until then?
1.. The 10k is on August 22nd. Rupp will run his last hard workout 9 days before then according to Salazar. So he'll only have time to do maybe one light workout between now and then. So your idea of "is it just breaking thorugh for better workouts is false.
2. So what's the point of this race? It's a rust-buster. He needs to race before Worlds . The idea that Rupp's first race after a break is always bad isn't really true. Yes, last year outdoors when his wife was pregnant he bombed the 5k but then rocked the 10,000 but the year before he opened at 13:01. Bue regardless, you don't want to go into worlds not having race in months.
He doens't need to be in great form in a mile 14 days before Worlds but to lose to Hassan Mead isn't good.
rojo wrote:
Here are the results:
Place Athlete Time
1 Peter Callahan USA 3:58.43
2 Colby Alexander USA 3:59.19
3 Hassan Mead Nike - OTC Elite 3:59.89
4 Galen Rupp Nike Oregon Project 4:00.45
5. WADA 4:00.46
6. USADA 4:00.46
7 Thomas Riva Canada 4:00.47
8 David Torrence Hoka One One 4:00.51
]
Rupp did the best he could with WADA and USADA breathing down his neck. He's done. Put another needle, I mean fork, in him.
I think Rupp is training through this one and wasn't prepared. He didn't enter this race until the very last minute. Prior to Thursday the Flotrack Throwdown marketing images didn't include him. Then suddenly he is at the front of the images indicating he entered only at the last minute..
A friend and myself were speculating today that Rupp didn't go to Europe this year so he could cycle on at home. After the BBC story, it would be dangerous to travel with drugs.
I guess we can kiss that theory good-bye. The more i think about it. Salazar has a prescription for androgel so there is no need to fear a customs inspection as they could just show them the prescription.
Go Galen Go wrote:
I think Rupp is training through this one and wasn't prepared. He didn't enter this race until the very last minute. Prior to Thursday the Flotrack Throwdown marketing images didn't include him. Then suddenly he is at the front of the images indicating he entered only at the last minute..
Fair point, but you'd think this has got to hurt his confidence. So a mistake by Saladbar. Although the 13:19 last year didn't hurt him at Pre a few weeks later..
Iro wrote:
A finely tuned kick??? Dude, the pace of his last lap is a pace he used to hold for a full mile. That's not a kick. That's mile pace.
Yes except this was like a jV track. People are saying it's a slow track. Although Vessey wasn't that slow.
It may be a jv meet at a jv track but he got beat by 2 seconds by guys he should be killing. Hassan Meade beat him.
2 seconds is a lot in an eternity in a mile.
I just watched the race for the 1st time. ANy Rupp fan watching the race should be getting nervous.
Rupp had the lead at the bell and went backwards. It looked like Mead was getting dropped before 1k (the pace was pretty slow and they accelerated a bit and he didn't respond). HIs beating Rupp wasn't a good sign for RUpp.
Callahan closed in 56 falt.
The only reason Rupp didn't get last is cause he kicked all the way to the line. He got buy two guys in the last 5 meters, one of whom let up. Credit to Rupp for running all the way and actually leaining.
Remember when Rupp ran an unreal 2 mile race indoors then did a workout ending in a 4:00 or 4:01 mile?
jewbacca wrote:
Worlds will tell all.
Another non-contender finish in the 5000, coming right up!
Just move to the marathon already.
Iro wrote:
Dude, the pace of his last lap is a pace he used to hold for a full mile. That's not a kick. That's mile pace. Something is seriously wrong with his fitness. At no point in the year should anyone's kick be slower than their mile PR.
Oh, look: brains!
Go Galen Go wrote:
I think Rupp is training through this one and wasn't prepared.
BZZT, wrong.
He tapered.
Look at the short mile-pace workout he did earlier in the week. Every fanboy was saying he was ready to "pop a big one." You can't backpedal now and say he trained through.
He is already in the final prep for Beijing (the race is in two weeks). It is not like he is months out. Salazar said very specifically that he wanted to see a fast mile like Mo rips each year before throwing down in the 5/10.
TLW wrote:
Remember when Rupp ran an unreal 2 mile race indoors then did a workout ending in a 4:00 or 4:01 mile?
4:03.
But still.
factcheck wrote:
TLW wrote:Remember when Rupp ran an unreal 2 mile race indoors then did a workout ending in a 4:00 or 4:01 mile?
4:03.
But still.
Rupp did run a 4:01 at the end of his post-race workout after his 13:01 at BU that January.
Rudiger wrote:
A question: Can anyone explain what purpose a race like this serves? We're still a few weeks out from worlds and his kick by no means has to be finely tuned yet. Is it just breaking through for better workouts until then?
Practice your race-day routine. Get some rust of of your legs.
Ruppster wrote:
factcheck wrote:4:03.
But still.
Rupp did run a 4:01 at the end of his post-race workout after his 13:01 at BU that January.
5xmile in 4:21, 4:20, 4:20, 4:16, 4:01 after his 8:07 2 mile record
Rupp just practice kicking, getting passed, and finishing less than 0.1-seconds from DFL.
Randy Oldman wrote:
Rudiger wrote:A question: Can anyone explain what purpose a race like this serves? We're still a few weeks out from worlds and his kick by no means has to be finely tuned yet. Is it just breaking through for better workouts until then?
Practice your race-day routine. Get some rust of of your legs.
Jv slow wrote:
It may be a jv meet at a jv track but he got beat by 2 seconds by guys he should be killing. Hassan Meade beat him.
2 seconds is a lot in an eternity in a mile.
It was anything but a jv meet. Opposite actually.
Also Rupp shouldn't be automatically killing the other guys in the race.
Of the 7 guys in the race, the slowest guy was a 3:56 guy. Most were 3:33 to 3:37 types which means 3:50 to 3:54 for the mile.
In a sit and kick, any one of them could have won. Hell, the top 2 finishers, or "nobodies" we're 3:36/3:37 1500 guys. Rupp doesn't automatically beat guys like that. Other than his one 3:50.9, how many times has Rupp run 3:53, or equivalent to a 3:36? Not many at all.
Kudos to Callahan and Alexander for not buying into the mentality that Rupp and Torrence were automatics tonite! I guess that's why they're the ones running and not on here posting!
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