London Marathon won 7 times in 12 years (24 races - men and women) by athletes with suspicious blood values

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  • WhoWhoWho
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 5:45pm CDT
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    Ok, here we go:

    2004 Evans Rutto Kenya 2:06:18
    2005 Martin Lel Kenya 2:07:35
    2006 Felix Limo Kenya 2:06:39
    2007 Martin Lel Kenya 2:07:41
    2008 Martin Lel Kenya 2:05:15
    2009 Samuel Wanjiru Kenya 2:05:10
    2010 Tsegaye Kebede Ethiopia 2:05:19
    2011 Emmanuel Mutai Kenya 2:04:40
    2012 Wilson Kipsang Kenya 2:04:44
    2013 Tsegaye Kebede Ethiopia 2:06:04
    2014 Wilson Kipsang Kenya 2:04:29
    2015 Eliud Kipchoge Kenya 2:04:42
  • Sunday Times front page
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 5:49pm CDT
    re: WhoWhoWho
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    Not sure if this means both men and women, so could be 7 victories out of 24 races.

    Another shot - http://suttonnick.tumblr.com/image/126200501896
  • WhoWhoWho
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 5:50pm CDT
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    Good point, it says men and women..
  • MiRo
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 5:51pm CDT
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    Which time frame?
    And don't forget the ladies.
    "Nearly 30% of winners in 24 men’s and women’s races in London may have doped, the data shows."
  • WhoWhoWho
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 5:52pm CDT
    re: MiRo
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    2004 Margaret Okayo Kenya 2:22:35
    2005 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:17:42 Third victory
    2006 Deena Kastor United States 2:19:35
    2007 Zhou Chunxiu China 2:20:38
    2008 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:24:14
    2009 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:22:11 Second victory
    2010 Aselefech Mergia Ethiopia 2:22:38 Initially third but Liliya Shobukhova and Inga Abitova both disqualified retrospectively.
    2011 Mary Keitany Kenya 2:19:19
    2012 Mary Keitany Kenya 2:18:37 Second victory
    2013 Priscah Jeptoo Kenya 2:20:15
    2014 Edna Kiplagat Kenya 2:20:21
    2015 Tigist Tufa Ethiopia 2:23:21

    Another Radcliffe hint?
  • Sunday Times front page
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 5:57pm CDT
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    Yes possibly another hint. You can blow that last link to the front page up and read the article.

    Also says eight British athletes, including Mo Farah, Jo Pavey and Lisa Dobrinsky are going against the wishes of the IAAF and British Athletics and will be publishing their blood test results. No mention of any other high profile British Athletes!
  • Sunday Times front page
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 6:00pm CDT
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    Also presumably the time frame is for the period that the Sunday Times has the blood doping data for which was between 2001 and 2012.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_winners_of_the_London_Marathon#Women.27s_Elite_Race_winners
  • So that would be
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 6:10pm CDT
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    2001 Derartu Tulu Ethiopia 2:23:57
    2002 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:18:56 Course record
    2003 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:15:25 World marathon record; second victory
    2004 Margaret Okayo Kenya 2:22:35
    2005 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:17:42 Third victory
    2006 Deena Kastor United States 2:19:35
    2007 Zhou Chunxiu China 2:20:38
    2008 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:24:14
    2009 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:22:11 Second victory
    2010 Aselefech Mergia Ethiopia 2:22:38 Initially third but Liliya Shobukhova and Inga Abitova both disqualified retrospectively.
    2011 Mary Keitany Kenya 2:19:19
    2012 Mary Keitany Kenya 2:18:37 Second victory

    2001 Abdelkader El Mouaziz Morocco 2:07:09 Second victory
    2002 Khalid Khannouchi United States 2:05:38 World marathon record
    2003 Gezahegne Abera Ethiopia 2:07:56
    2004 Evans Rutto Kenya 2:06:18
    2005 Martin Lel Kenya 2:07:35
    2006 Felix Limo Kenya 2:06:39
    2007 Martin Lel Kenya 2:07:41 Second victory
    2008 Martin Lel Kenya 2:05:15 Course record; third victory
    2009 Samuel Wanjiru Kenya 2:05:10 Course record
    2010 Tsegaye Kebede Ethiopia 2:05:19 Provisional Result
    2011 Emmanuel Mutai Kenya 2:04:40 Course record
    2012 Wilson Kipsang Kenya 2:04:44



    Pick your 7!
  • My assumptions
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 6:13pm CDT
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    Sunday Times front page wrote:

    Also presumably the time frame is for the period that the Sunday Times has the blood doping data for which was between 2001 and 2012.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_winners_of_the_London_Marathon#Women.27s_Elite_Race_winners


    2001 Abdelkader El Mouaziz Morocco 2:07:09 Second victory
    2002 Khalid Khannouchi United States



    2002 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:18:56 Course record
    2003 Paula Radcliffe

    2005 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:17:42 Third victory

    2008. Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:24:14
    2009 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:22:11 Second victory
  • otto
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    4 years ago 08/08/2015 6:30pm CDT
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    2003 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:15:25 World marathon record; second victory
    2005 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:17:42 Third victory
    2006 Deena Kastor United States 2:19:35
    2007 Zhou Chunxiu China 2:20:38
    2008 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:24:14
    2009 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:22:11 Second victory
    2010 Liliya Shobukhova
  • saba saba
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 8:20pm CDT
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    So that would be wrote:

    2001 Derartu Tulu Ethiopia 2:23:57
    2002 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:18:56 Course record
    2003 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:15:25 World marathon record; second victory
    2004 Margaret Okayo Kenya 2:22:35
    2005 Paula Radcliffe United Kingdom 2:17:42 Third victory
    2006 Deena Kastor United States 2:19:35
    2007 Zhou Chunxiu China 2:20:38
    2008 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:24:14
    2009 Irina Mikitenko Germany 2:22:11 Second victory
    2010 Aselefech Mergia Ethiopia 2:22:38 Initially third but Liliya Shobukhova and Inga Abitova both disqualified retrospectively.
    2011 Mary Keitany Kenya 2:19:19
    2012 Mary Keitany Kenya 2:18:37 Second victory

    2001 Abdelkader El Mouaziz Morocco 2:07:09 Second victory
    2002 Khalid Khannouchi United States 2:05:38 World marathon record
    2003 Gezahegne Abera Ethiopia 2:07:56
    2004 Evans Rutto Kenya 2:06:18
    2005 Martin Lel Kenya 2:07:35
    2006 Felix Limo Kenya 2:06:39
    2007 Martin Lel Kenya 2:07:41 Second victory
    2008 Martin Lel Kenya 2:05:15 Course record; third victory
    2009 Samuel Wanjiru Kenya 2:05:10 Course record
    2010 Tsegaye Kebede Ethiopia 2:05:19 Provisional Result
    2011 Emmanuel Mutai Kenya 2:04:40 Course record
    2012 Wilson Kipsang Kenya 2:04:44



    Pick your 7!

    If we're not including the disqualified Russian ladies, then:

    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
    Zhou
    Mikitenko
    Mikitenko

    El Mouaziz
    Khannouchi
  • My picks
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 8:30pm CDT
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    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
    Radcliffe
  • hypocriticizer
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 8:36pm CDT
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    Paula ratchet will be exposed
  • Randy Oldman
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 8:39pm CDT
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    This is sensationalist nonsense. The Sunday Times is no Guardian.
  • jjjjjjj
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 9:19pm CDT
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    It wouldn't be surprising with this time period to have the two North African runners, plus 3xPR, and 2xMikit, or Keitx2. The Kenyans showed plenty of suspicious blood values, but which here if any?
  • long sox
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 9:52pm CDT
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    Do they count the ones that have already been banned?

    In which case Liliya Shobukhova is one of the seven.

    But I don't know why more people haven't been calling out Mikitenko. She runs for an eastern european country before transferring to Germany. Then in 2008 she skips the Olympics and runs a PB in the 10k (road) of 30:57 and two weeks later the Berlin marathon in 2:19:19.
  • for our eyes
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 10:04pm CDT
    re: long sox
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    long sox wrote:

    But I don't know why more people haven't been calling out Mikitenko.

    Four out of four posters before you who made a list called out Mikitenko. Excepting the poster who went all Radcliffe.

    Obligatory quote:

    "One of [Radcliffe's] blood tests was conducted at the London Marathon, and Radcliffe, who is involved in setting up a new website for the IAAF educating young competitors about the dangers of drug abuse, has put in a request to UK Sport to publicise the details. 'I have absolutely no objection to my test being released,' she said. 'I would like to know it myself.'"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics-hard-work-not-drugs-the-secret-of-radcliffes-success-172526.html
  • pop_pop!
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 10:15pm CDT
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    [quote]for our eyes wrote:
    'I have absolutely no objection to my test being released,' she said. 'I would like to know it myself.'"

    Google has the page cached, the URL errors 503.

    She's forgotten she had access to ALL of her scores under ADAMS. All of them.

    What. A. Liar.
  • pop_pop!
    4 years ago 08/08/2015 10:30pm CDT
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    Do they have a new set of data, or is this from Seppelt's story/source?

    If it's from Seppelt's source, the World Marathon Majors is not only WADA compliant, but the anti-doping authority is the IAAF.

    That makes complete sense. Not a word about anti-doping details anywhere and no one saying a word about it. IAAF getting paid.
  • Inside Scoop
    4 years ago 08/09/2015 2:20am CDT
    re: pop_pop!
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    It was all Kenyans and Ethiopians.