14 Yr Old Girl Collapses and Dies During XC Tryouts

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  • llort_vbo
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    5 years ago 08/09/2015 4:25am CDT
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    The seatbelt analogy is pretty good actually. A seatbelt system costs several hundred dollars, surely. What's a 12-lead ECG test cost? It can't be THAT much seeing as italy does it on every kid who wants to do sports. Lots of rich private schools in the US do it too.

    More derp. You can't diagnose very much with an EKG unless you're quite literally about to drop dead.

    At minimum to diagnose hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, you need to do a echocardiogram. Not cheap. In addition, a stress test would be needed. Perhaps a holter monitor and several other diagnostic procedures.

    The school district shouldn't be spending other people's money. If you have a concern about your kid, talk to the pediatrician.
  • runn
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    5 years ago 08/09/2015 7:17am CDT
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    hghghghg wrote:

    tryouts for xc are wrong. let people be on the team.

    I can't imagine having kids run hard, the first day(s) of practice to make the team.
    I coach a team of about 40-50 boys and girls.
    Some of the kids will be running 2 miles the first few days because I know their fitness level is low.
    Meanwhile, my top boys have been running 60mpw all summer.
    No tryouts- let them run at their level and improve at their level.
  • va coach
    5 years ago 08/09/2015 7:05pm CDT
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    Agree with all your points.

    I'm not jumping to conclusions about this tragedy because I don't have anywhere near enough info to know. But I will say this much.

    Any kind of stressful or testing situation in the first few days of practice is the wrong approach to hs xc, and also completely unnecessary. It's particularly wrong, not to mention dangerous, for rising 9th graders. Many of these kids have done nothing or next to nothing running-wise all summer. The weather is often hot and humid. Just asking for trouble.

    If cuts have to be made, which is the exception in hs xc programs, it should be done based on watching the new kids over the first week or two. Who can deal with it and improve, and who can't? You don't need three mile time trials to figure this out.

    Let's hear from some other hs xc coaches about how they handle this.

    If you want to have a political discussion about health care and budget priorities, start another thread.
  • sdfgsdgdfg
    5 years ago 08/09/2015 7:11pm CDT
    re: llort_vbo
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    llort_vbo wrote:
    More derp. You can't diagnose very much with an EKG unless you're quite literally about to drop dead.

    At minimum to diagnose hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, you need to do a echocardiogram. Not cheap. In addition, a stress test would be needed. Perhaps a holter monitor and several other diagnostic procedures.

    The school district shouldn't be spending other people's money. If you have a concern about your kid, talk to the pediatrician.

    You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. 12-lead ECGs are abnormal in 95% of patients with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. See: Maron, B. J. (2003). "Sudden Death in Young Athletes." New England Journal of Medicine 349: 1064-1075.

    Do the research before spewing nonsense.
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