The road is undulating not all downhill.
He wouldn't have done all his 800 sessions on the Rivellin Valley Road. Many of those 800 reps were on the track during the summer. They certainly would have been when training in Switzerland in late summer.
The road is undulating not all downhill.
He wouldn't have done all his 800 sessions on the Rivellin Valley Road. Many of those 800 reps were on the track during the summer. They certainly would have been when training in Switzerland in late summer.
Obviously how much rest she took is important, but, almost any amount of rest that would justify calling this a single workout (i.e. not one hour breaks..) would imply that she is very probably capable of breaking 3:45. If she really did take 2 minute breaks, then this is pretty much the workout I remember reading that Bog Kennedy did before he broke 13. In that case, I'd be very interested to know what she's on. Heck, I still am....
Link wrote:
Obviously how much rest she took is important, but, almost any amount of rest that would justify calling this a single workout (i.e. not one hour breaks..) would imply that she is very probably capable of breaking 3:45. If she really did take 2 minute breaks, then this is pretty much the workout I remember reading that Bog Kennedy did before he broke 13. In that case, I'd be very interested to know what she's on. Heck, I still am....
Maybe she can run 3:45, put her in a race with men, why not?
Once the rabbit left the race G. Dibaba sped up.
well now we know she's an epothian.
From what a norwegian guy heard from the inner circle this is what the workout really was:
2.06 - 2.07 - 2.06 - 2.04 - 2.03 - 1.58
Rest: 400m jog in 3.30
A swede chimes in saying a friend who coaches a runner called Suldan Hassan (who supposedly ran the workout with dibaba) confirmes the workout and the original times, and confirmes the rest was 400m jog. The Hassan guy was beaten with 4 seconds on the last rep.
According to my Garmin the track is only 390 meters
Inner circle wrote:
From what a norwegian guy heard from the inner circle this is what the workout really was:
2.06 - 2.07 - 2.06 - 2.04 - 2.03 - 1.58
Rest: 400m jog in 3.30
A swede chimes in saying a friend who coaches a runner called Suldan Hassan (who supposedly ran the workout with dibaba) confirmes the workout and the original times, and confirmes the rest was 400m jog. The Hassan guy was beaten with 4 seconds on the last rep.
Tilastopja lists Suldan Hassan as 17 years old with apersonal best of 3:51.92
Staggered wrote:
coach d wrote:You're wrong on all accounts.
The workout ukathleticscoach listed above is one that Horwill claimed that Coe did with 2 minutes rest (and that he even could do that is in dispute), and the Coe workout is perhaps a little easier (first 3 in 2:08, 2:06, 2:04).
At the time Lagat was double world champion, he did 4X800 in 1:58-2:02 + 2X400[58,56]--Dr. Li confirmed this one personally by email.
These are workouts of people who ran 3:26-3:29 and 1:41 (and Lagat the last 800 of a 1500 in 1:46!). There is no way someone with "only" a 3:50 PR can do these workouts, male or female.
Then why does Horwill specifically say 45 secs and state the times of each rep on his training page? Were you there? Horwill was. I would tend to believe so done who was there.
In a L'Equipe interview in 81 Coe said he ran a series of 800's, can't recall if it was 4 or 6, but I can check, with all around the 1:50-1:52 mark, the last in 1:46.9, with 90 sec rest between reps. He also states on film in his documentary that his rest was generally 1.5 to 2 mins.
So now his last rep is down to 1:46? Wait another twenty years and he probably ran an unofficial WR in the last one.
Maybe two reps and a start on the third. No way she can run 6 reps in the times listed on 2 minutes rest. Nice troll try though.
JRinaldi wrote:
Looking at some of the articles on Aden's program, you can see that he has a number of hard high volume workouts with big rests in between. 7 min seems to be a common thread - so this workout may very well have been; 6x800m with 7min rec
I agree with this.
Inner circle wrote:
From what a norwegian guy heard from the inner circle this is what the workout really was:
2.06 - 2.07 - 2.06 - 2.04 - 2.03 - 1.58
Rest: 400m jog in 3.30
Thanks much for those details. That's a very slow jog, plus typically considerable time standing around right before and after the reps, which makes much longer recoveries quite feasible and more reasonable.
J.R. wrote:
JRinaldi wrote:Looking at some of the articles on Aden's program, you can see that he has a number of hard high volume workouts with big rests in between. 7 min seems to be a common thread - so this workout may very well have been; 6x800m with 7min rec
I agree with this.
Inner circle wrote:
From what a norwegian guy heard from the inner circle this is what the workout really was:
2.06 - 2.07 - 2.06 - 2.04 - 2.03 - 1.58
Rest: 400m jog in 3.30
Thanks much for those details. That's a very slow jog, plus typically considerable time standing around right before and after the reps, which makes much longer recoveries quite feasible and more reasonable.
If she could run a time in the last rep that would win some DL races why don´t she just put out the shoes on the track and collect the 800 WR?
Reality check!! wrote:
J.R. wrote:I agree with this.
Thanks much for those details. That's a very slow jog, plus typically considerable time standing around right before and after the reps, which makes much longer recoveries quite feasible and more reasonable.
If she could run a time in the last rep that would win some DL races why don´t she just put out the shoes on the track and collect the 800 WR?
It's a LONG way from 1:58.xx to 1:53.28. Not saying Dibaba couldn't do it, but that workout speaks much more to her ability to set records at distances over 800m than it does to her ability to run an historically fast one-off 800m.
Anyway, it would be a lot of fun to see her run an 800m at some late season meet.
Grown man in bars reflecting on their glory days lie about workouts and times not World Record holders--- She is that GOOD.
When did you know you could do it?
Genzebe Dibaba: When I was training for the 5000m record [attempt in Paris], I did six repeats of 800m and I did the last one in 1:58. I did the earlier ones in 2:02, 2:03, 2:04, and so on, but the last one in 1:58. I knew then that I could run fast; and after that, the Barcelona race was arranged for me and I ran 3:54. I felt very good. The pacemaker didn't take me all the way through 800m. I knew that with better pacemaking arranged, I could run faster.
She's not that good. She's a 3.50 1500m runner. School boys could destroy her, yet she's claiming the training times a 3.50 1500m couldn't possibly do. Either she is lying or mico dosing during training periods and cycling off before races. Her race times don't match her training. Very suspicious!
I think 3.48 is possible in a man's race. Don't be shocked to see her run 14.05 after the world champs.
who is Costas Goulas? Wonder what his relation to Dibaba is? That workout he lists is the same one that started this thread. Looks like we got the real times from Inner Circle though.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.