When will America learn to stop harassing innocent people from other countries?
When will America learn to stop harassing innocent people from other countries?
I didn't see USADA mentioned.
Bill Bock apparently has worked with USADA before but I don't think he represents them in this case.
Can someone confirm since USADA is in the title of this thread?
I don't see how they can question a British athlete in Great Britain for this.
I guess if Mo fully cooperates they can. And I wonder if they had a tactic to allow this discussion to occur out of the US.
"Hey Mo' you really aren't the fish that we want to catch, tell us what you know and we will look the other way. If not, we will make life difficult for you."
Star wrote:
I didn't see USADA mentioned.
Bill Bock apparently has worked with USADA before but I don't think he represents them in this case.
Can someone confirm since USADA is in the title of this thread?
I don't see how they can question a British athlete in Great Britain for this.
I guess if Mo fully cooperates they can. And I wonder if they had a tactic to allow this discussion to occur out of the US.
Is experimenting with your testosterone gel to find out how much can be applied before triggering a positive test a "gray area"?
you're clueless wrote:
What to do wrote:Because the gray areas dont BREAK the RULES.
Wrong. You obviously don't know what gray area means. It's actions and methods that may or may not be legal. Nobody knows until a light is cast on the area. People who operate in the gray areas don't want that light as they know or fear that much of what they do is in fact breaking the rules.
It is completely possible to cheat without breaking a rule. The rules are written to best give parameters that the law is intended to convey . There could not possibly be enough written "rules" to capture the full intent of every Law! Hence the need for the legal system so carry out the point of the law when there is this (non written rule) area !
Testosterone cream NOT GREY
Misuse of medicines such as .....
Inhalers, ( Max dose in spite dr recommendation ) NOT GREY
Coaching athletes on how to fail a medical test to get a Dr to prescribe a TUE's (Thyroid Meds) NOT GREY
Coaching Galen to get an IV NOT GREY
Rt now there are not a clearly written rule for each of these instances. so they are all officially grey
However .....
Anyone understanding the point of the laws governing doping in the sport which are there to protect those who are clean and the integrity of our sport , as well as prohibit those from having an unfair advantage , understands that EACH of those examples are clearly cheating !!!!
I personally hope all these athletes (coached by Salazar) are in the dark to the methods of the mad scientist / the evil dark coaching villain , and I so wish they are found to be innocent of INTENTIONALLY doping or cheating , and it is only Salazar who gets hung here by the truth . Not the most likely scenario I know but one can hope !
I also do hope the truth comes out and anyone INTENTIONALLY cheating gets there butt handed to them and made an example of, to strongly discourage others from taking the easy path, the dark path !
Farah had two missed tests before the London Olympics and we are well aware of his explanation concerning the second one. (He didn't hear the door bell while sleeping in his bedroom.) However, I don't remember reading anything in re of the first one. Could somebody remind me what his answer was for missing the first one?
Mo's explanation was: I do not answer the door for strangers.
[quote]Gel Pen wrote:
Is experimenting with your testosterone gel to find out how much can be applied before triggering a positive test a "gray area"?
[quote]you're clueless wrote:
Keep the hard drugs away from THIS guy!
Slivery Slope wrote:
So, 20 people heard from the Gouchers that Alberto was breaking rules. These 20 people listened to so much bitching, whining, and moaning from the Gouchers that they eventually thought there might be something to it. Other than that, there is virtually NOTHING; and the internet rumor mongers will never be proven wrong because that isn't what witch hunts are about. Witch hunts result in innocent people having to prove they are innocent, which is basically what Salazar did with his lengthy and complete retort. And what have the Gouchers done since that report came out? Nothing, except to backtrack on their promise to share everything with everybody. They are either liars or cannot be taken for their word. .
Well, and this is just a guess: Because it's still "under investigation"? Patience...
was very very strange.
He kept smiling and answering like he was the queen of england.
Any other (serious) explanation?
The point of all this? wrote:
Awesome. Because of a small handful of internet trolls and a few fired, disgruntled employees with zero factual evidence of doping, U.S. Taxpayers are now footing the bill for this pointless investigation which will find nothing. Meanwhile, the Brits are scratching their heads on why the tax payer funded BBC spent millions on this story.
At least Kara Goucher now has more Twitter followers and Letsrun got more hits.
Its seriously messed up.
Goucher makes me want to throw up every time I see her name. I use to be a fan of hers too.
I love how in her statement she wasn't going to make any more statements she threw her pregnancy leave in. What a freakin' red hearing!
patience indeed. i am sure USADA has asked complainants to refrain from any further public statements. They will (already have) interview everyone and will follow this wherever it leads. If I were in Vegas I would bet Albuterol will find some difficulties.
I could be wrong but I don't think USADA has strictly forbid anyone to speak out during the investigation. I know the witnesses sure didn't keep quiet during the Armstrong investigation. Tyler Hamilton was on 60 minutes promoting his book while the investigation was ongoing.
FactualFactualFactual wrote:
Brits do not scratch their heads about the BBC. It is expected the BBC investigate things like this. They do not have the same attitude as Americans do about publicly funded broadcasting corporations. I can assure only the U.S. cares about such things.
Indeed.
Lucky luciano wrote:
If someone hung out exclusively with Al Capone but you had no real proof that he was a mobster, would you think he might be connected to the Mob in some fashion?
Well I know for a fact that Alberto is as guilty as Al Capone was.
I also know that they had to indict Capone on tax evasion because they couldn't prove anything else. Even though the entire City of Chicago knew he was a mob boss.
IF you knew for a fact, you'd have no trouble posting your story under your real name.
The Brits don't scratch their head about much. Massive lower class, w Very Benny Hill low brow humor, to small middle class Masterpiece theater, to tiny aristocracy, money or titled.
They have a penchant for sex and drug scandals amongst their elected officials.
Lucky luciano wrote:
Well I know for a fact that Alberto is as guilty as Al Capone was.
You have facts proving Alberto is guilty?
Do tell!
Star wrote:
1) Bill Bock apparently has worked with USADA before but I don't think he represents them in this case. Can someone confirm since USADA is in the title of this thread?
2) I don't see how they can question a British athlete in Great Britain for this.
I guess if Mo fully cooperates they can. And I wonder if they had a tactic to allow this discussion to occur out of the US.
1) According to Bock's bio at the firm he works for: "Since 2007 Bill has served as General Counsel to USADA located in Colorado Springs, Colorado." So yes, he is working for the USADA.
2) There are lots of reasons they could be questioning Farah besides investigating him. For example, maybe they want to know what he saw in Portland. Or maybe they want to know what Alberto told him to do. Or maybe they have allegations that he doped while in Portland.
As for how it operates in GB, the USADA is not a governmental agency. This means it has fewer powers than the FBI, but also fewer restraints. So the USADA talking to Farah in GB raises fewer legal issues than would the FBI talking to Farah.
Don't keep us hanging wrote:
You have facts proving Alberto is guilty?
Do tell!
We know Alberto is guilty of experimenting with testosterone gel to see how much can be applied without triggering a positive test. We know that because he admits it himself.
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