Mo Farah Has Broken 13:00 The Same Number of Times as Chris Solinsky

TDodd22 wrote:

"In the modern era, championship racing comes down to tactics 90% of the time."

So what's happening the other 10% of the time? no strategy? Just running hoping for the best without a plan?

Taking it out fast is a tactic, and it favors some runners and not others. I know what you're trying to say but it's not too sensible to divide races into tactical/not-tactical. Instead, we might divide them into "wars of attrition" and "trying to be be fresh at the bell."

Yogee wrote:

If Farah ran 12:42 then I'd say that would be great. I never said he can't run that fast over 5k and I didn't say that he won his medals by accident. He would still be a competition dodger though because there is no one else close to that form currently.

Gatlin should run the 400, maybe even the 800, because no one is close to 9.7x / 19.5x form right now in the 100 like he is.

Do you realize how dumb the argument you're making sounds?

Actually, you just are unable to convey what you mean in your writing. Where I'm from 'almost 2 minutes' means anything up to 1:59, not 1:30. Unless you truly believe Bekele could run 57:30, in which case you are insane.

The point I was making is Gebremeskel ran the WL and 5th fastest all time performance in 2012 with 12:46 but nobody is going to remember that in a few years. The far more important statistic which everyone will remember is that Farah beat him in the 5000m Olympic final, and shows that Farah was more capable.

If he runs 12:42 how could he be competition dodging? By racing his best distance against the best that Africa has to offer? Competition dodging is avoiding races with those running faster than you in your event, like Bolt has been doing this year. Sub 12:45 would be comparing himself with the best the world has ever seen.

Should Farah start running the 800m not to 'dodge competition'? You are mad.

"Pre, is that you?"

symbols wrote:

Three times.

Why don't the Ethiopians and Kenyans make Worlds an honest race and see what happens?

TDodd22 wrote:

In the modern era, championship racing comes down to tactics 90% of the time. This is because athletes think that it is more impressive to win a 1500 in 3:45 with a 51 second last lap rather than place 3rd with a 3:31, and run a 55 second last lap. It's purely idiotic.

If not sarcasm or trolling, I can't believe this is a real statement.

WINNING IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN LOSING.

Especially if we are talking about a Championship race.

What is the point of a RACE if not to run fast?

You remember in grade school, where two kids race to the pole/stop sign to see who wins? Same concept. They don't even need a stopwatch at the Olympics.

Oops, trolled myself.

I mean what is the point of a RACE if not to win? It's certainly not to run fast. Those aren't races.

Yogee wrote:

If Farah ran 12:42 then I'd say that would be great. I never said he can't run that fast over 5k and I didn't say that he won his medals by accident. He would still be a competition dodger though because there is no one else close to that form currently.

So he's dodging nobody? It's his fault that nobody else can come close to him?

If you were playing dodgball, and the other team couldn't come close to hitting you with the ball, would you run towards the balls trying to get hit?

Humbert Humbert wrote:

If you are a guy who knows he can run 12:48 from the front, who also knows that Mo can sit on your ass at that pace and also has run 3:28 (twice) to your 3:33, then you are effectively racing for silver, and the way to get that is NOT to take the lead against the other 12:4x/12:5x guys. Look at what Kamworor tried to do at Pre. Do you think he was hoping to outkick Farah? Hell no, he was racing the other guy (and still came up short).

Until another 12:3x guy comes along, get used to Farah winning by taking the lead at the bell.Every time.

They could at least try

The Kenyans have lost the bottle to run how they used to setting a fast pace or putting in bursts

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Humbert Humbert wrote:

If you are a guy who knows he can run 12:48 from the front, who also knows that Mo can sit on your ass at that pace and also has run 3:28 (twice) to your 3:33, then you are effectively racing for silver, and the way to get that is NOT to take the lead against the other 12:4x/12:5x guys. Look at what Kamworor tried to do at Pre. Do you think he was hoping to outkick Farah? Hell no, he was racing the other guy (and still came up short).

Until another 12:3x guy comes along, get used to Farah winning by taking the lead at the bell.Every time.

They could at least try

The Kenyans have lost the bottle to run how they used to setting a fast pace or putting in bursts

"bottle" indeed...