LRC Mike Rossi article is finally up!

eroiwutiowyhwe wrote:

If I were Mike, I would drop 20lbs, actually train right, and go race a 5k in 19:59. That would be an easy $10k to pick up and a smack in the brojos faces.

Seriously, he looks like he is 180 - 185 which may be one of the biggest things holding him back. Breaking 20 should not be impossible for him.

I thought the same thing, but it would show that he needed to drop 20 lbs just to break 20 minutes. Then everyone could talk about how improbable his time was at his previous weight. I think it would take quite a few attempts as he lost the weight that would provide more evidence of his inability to BQ.

What I would do is find a 5k or other distance that I could cheat at and still get photographed.

bkrunner wrote:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/05/the-evidence-is-overwhelming-mike-rossi-the-viral-marathon-dad-is-a-marathon-cheat-and-should-never-have-been-on-the-starting-line-in-boston/

My marathon PR is 2:57 when I was 40. The year before, I ran a 3:07. Shortly after that marathon, I ran 17:50 for a 5K. To run 3:11, you would need to be in 18:00 5K shape or maybe 18:00 -18:30 if we are being generous and accepting that some are better at longer distances. However, I have found most lower mileage slower runners tend to bonk at marathons. There is absolutely no way a 21:52 5K runner runs anything near a 3:11. He would be lucky to run 3:45 and would probably be slower. He definitely cheated. There is not doubt in my mind.

I agree that MR cheated, but you don't need to be an 18 min 5Ker to run a 3:11, you don't even need to be a 19 min 5Ker.

McMillan says 19:00 5K equates to a 3:05:08. 17:50 is more consistent with your 2:57. Maybe you need to work on endurance or you had a bad race with the 3:07.

Update on 7/17/2015: We will pay him $100,000 if he runs 3:11:45 on a legitimate records-eligible course in the next 12 months where we have advanced notice of his participation ($10,000 per year for 10 years). A media outlet interviewed us today and asked about how the 3:25 challenge came about and we said, "We tried to come up with a time that was at least theoretically possible to preemptively rule out his excuse of, 'I can't be expected to have the race of my life once again.'"

We've added this to the article.

Mike Rossi, I will coach and train you for half your winnings.

Damn, 100k! BroJos you have balls. Good for you.

yah the whole Rossi story is super funny and everything and I'm glad that LR is calling him out on it as he sure deserves it for his proud parenting publicity ego stunts, but when you guys start promising 10 grand for him to break some times that are not too far out of his reach it strikes me that you guys are acting just as arrogant as well. You guys are just adding fuel to the fire and if he does break any of those times, I hope you guys pay up as promised.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Update on 7/17/2015: We will pay him $100,000 if he runs 3:11:45 on a legitimate records-eligible course in the next 12 months where we have advanced notice of his participation ($10,000 per year for 10 years). A media outlet interviewed us today and asked about how the 3:25 challenge came about and we said, "We tried to come up with a time that was at least theoretically possible to preemptively rule out his excuse of, 'I can't be expected to have the race of my life once again.'"

We've added this to the article.

MIKE CALL ME!!!!

BUT DON'T FORGET TO BRING YOUR PREDNISONE!

This Rossi would be an absolute fool not to take LRC up on this opportunity.

Mike, if you are reading this, go on a diet NOW.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Update on 7/17/2015: We will pay him $100,000 if he runs 3:11:45 on a legitimate records-eligible course in the next 12 months where we have advanced notice of his participation ($10,000 per year for 10 years). A media outlet interviewed us today and asked about how the 3:25 challenge came about and we said, "We tried to come up with a time that was at least theoretically possible to preemptively rule out his excuse of, 'I can't be expected to have the race of my life once again.'"

We've added this to the article.

What about requiring testing for PEDs? Steroids, EPO...

I mean, he would be a "professional runner" if he is earning $100K by running- and pro runners could be tempted to use PEDs.

testing? wrote:

What about requiring testing for PEDs? Steroids, EPO...

I mean, he would be a "professional runner" if he is earning $100K by running- and pro runners could be tempted to use PEDs.

Mid 40's, classic narcissist, took up running late and immediately became fixated on an impossible goal, highly motivated by external rewards, brags about self endlessly on social media = your typical mid-life crisis testosterone user.

And he still could only run 3:45.

So I don't think the brojos care if he runs clean or dirty - he isn't coming anywhere near 3:11:45.

I read that article about two weeks ago. It was out there but protected with the password 'rossi'. It was announced on the mega-thread. I thought everybody knew about it.

insider without knowing wrote:

I read that article about two weeks ago. It was out there but protected with the password 'rossi'. It was announced on the mega-thread. I thought everybody knew about it.

You knew the exact dollar amounts they would offer him and for what times?

Or are you talking about a prior article that was similar to this one?

jjjjjjj wrote:

Also, regarding the proof of a negative: you chose the wrong one:

George Washington died in 1799, while television wasn't invented until the 1920s. Therefore, George Washington could not possibly have watched television. Look: I just proved a negative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washingtonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_television

No no no. George Washington DID watch television! I say he DID! It is not up to me to prove it, it's up to you to PROVE he didn't! And just saying it doesn't work. Claiming that TV wasn't invented then is not PROOF! I need you to PROVE he didn't, because many of us know he DID!

In terms of GW watching tv, the scenario that John Kellogg thinks is most possible is that aliens came down, landed at the plantation, and gave him electricity and tv for a few days. Told him they'd come back and murder his family if he told anyone.

In terms of the Rossi challenge, I guess I need to email his lawyer. Any attemps that are made a) we want pre-notice so we can watch and b) if it's a 3:11:45 attempt, I want post-race drug testing.

If he wants to dope up for 10k, all the more power to him. Maybe i shouldn't say that as given his mindset, anything is possible.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Update on 7/17/2015: We will pay him $100,000 if he runs 3:11:45 on a legitimate records-eligible course in the next 12 months where we have advanced notice of his participation ($10,000 per year for 10 years). A media outlet interviewed us today and asked about how the 3:25 challenge came about and we said, "We tried to come up with a time that was at least theoretically possible to preemptively rule out his excuse of, 'I can't be expected to have the race of my life once again.'"

We've added this to the article.

I like the increased challenge.

When I read the 10,000 for 3:25 offer, I thought 3:25 was very doable for a guy new to running that ran a 3:43 (after slowing in the second half) and has other PRs that show him capable of a time around 3:32. Lose a couple of pounds and he is almost there (based on minute per pound rule).

Now if he hits 3:25, letsrun can say they offered him 100,000 for a PR and he could not do it.

Rainy Day wrote:

I agree that MR cheated, but you don't need to be an 18 min 5Ker to run a 3:11, you don't even need to be a 19 min 5Ker.

McMillan says 19:00 5K equates to a 3:05:08. 17:50 is more consistent with your 2:57. Maybe you need to work on endurance or you had a bad race with the 3:07.

I consider the 3:07 to be a bad race but I have never really had a marathon that was a great race!

I don't think Mike will legitimately train to run any of the incentive times because I don't think someone with his personality would actually be capable of training hard enough to make those improvements. Cheaters take short-cuts. You can't short-cut your training. I think the Brojos' money is safe.

Unless he turns to good old EPO... Are you guys going to test him?

He mentions his GPS watch and it looks like he's wearing it in the finish line photo. So why not show us the results on his watch from that race or any training runs leading up to it that prove he ran or can run a 3:11. I certainly can for all my training and races!