Would Noah Ngeny and Million Wolde still have their OG Medals?
Thoughts?
Would Noah Ngeny and Million Wolde still have their OG Medals?
Thoughts?
He would have wasted his season running slow tactical races and the 3000m world record would be much less amazing.
That's a whop upside the head for all those medal-lovers. There's been lots of gold medal winners since then but there's still only ONE 7:20. Enduring world records are the true glory.
he ran ~ 15m extra wide on bends with twice baulked at start then outrageous sprint in lap 3 on 1st lap in his 3'46.3
he probably was in 3'43/3'44 shape at the time
that wouda blown away the 5k field if they'd jogged to 3400 & he then took off
Bad Wigins wrote:
Enduring world records are the true glory.
Until they're broken and they're completely forgotten.
People say Olympic medals are what counts but that 7:20 might as well be a gold medal in itself cuz we talk about that more than anybody winning medals.
#720forlife
Daniel Komen was that once-in-a-lifetime talent that we will never see again. To use a really bad mixed metaphor, he was the "Guns N' Roses" of distance running, an enormous talent that was probably not meant to last very long, but when it was "ON" it was a sight to behold.
The way things are going in track n' field, I doubt that 7:20 / 7:58 will be broken in the next 20 years.
Apparently what happened was that Komen let the money and fame destroy his desire to win, and got into drinking and loose women.
Nourredine Morceli and Venuste Niyongabo still have theirs.
DannyK wrote:
People say Olympic medals are what counts but that 7:20 might as well be a gold medal in itself cuz we talk about that more than anybody winning medals.
#720forlife
Sure. A few running nerds on an internet forum talk about him from time to time. That really counts.
medals last forever wrote:
DannyK wrote:People say Olympic medals are what counts but that 7:20 might as well be a gold medal in itself cuz we talk about that more than anybody winning medals.
#720forlife
Sure. A few running nerds on an internet forum talk about him from time to time. That really counts.
Good thing he did something of lasting importance like Venuste Niyongabo or Dieter Baumann
He would have been more likely to be caught for EPO. The test was finally available in 2000, though not very effective until 2002. Ngeny, Guerrouj, Geb and others all got away with it, so maybe he would've too, I don't know.
MAYEROFF wrote:
Daniel Komen was that once-in-a-lifetime talent that we will never see again.
Its amazing how many once in a lifetime, never to be seen again talents there were back then.
Komen, Geb, Guerrouj, Morceli, Cacho, Kipketer, Saidi-Sief, Boulami, Michael Johnson. At the same time we were blessed with Lance, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds. Et al.
It was a good time to be a once in a lifetime talent. Right place at the right time I guess.
medals last forever wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:Enduring world records are the true glory.
Until they're broken and they're completely forgotten.
Like that Bob What's-his-name from Mexico City?
Class of 97 wrote:
MAYEROFF wrote:Daniel Komen was that once-in-a-lifetime talent that we will never see again.
Its amazing how many once in a lifetime, never to be seen again talents there were back then.
Komen, Geb, Guerrouj, Morceli, Cacho, Kipketer, Saidi-Sief, Boulami, Michael Johnson. At the same time we were blessed with Lance, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds. Et al.
It was a good time to be a once in a lifetime talent. Right place at the right time I guess.
LMAO.
So true.
Bad Wigins wrote:There's been lots of gold medal winners since then but there's still only ONE 7:20. Enduring world records are the true glory.
agree
providing
- no one gets close since
hicham shouda gone 7'21 in brussels if not for appalling pacing when he was "shoooing" wabbit on ~ 4th lap
( early laps not on youtube
trust me, i saw it live
he shouda gone 7'21 with decent pacing )
- they are not doped-up fraueleins : 47.6 & 21,71 multiple times & 7'40+ numerous times + outrageous chucks, were huge dopers
ask valerie adams
Class of 97 wrote:
MAYEROFF wrote:Daniel Komen was that once-in-a-lifetime talent that we will never see again.
Its amazing how many once in a lifetime, never to be seen again talents there were back then.
Komen, Geb, Guerrouj, Morceli, Cacho, Kipketer, Saidi-Sief, Boulami, Michael Johnson. At the same time we were blessed with Lance, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds. Et al.
It was a good time to be a once in a lifetime talent. Right place at the right time I guess.
How are 9 people once in a lifetime talents? Can you not count?
ventolin^3 wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:There's been lots of gold medal winners since then but there's still only ONE 7:20. Enduring world records are the true glory.agree
providing
- no one gets close since
hicham shouda gone 7'21 in brussels if not for appalling pacing when he was "shoooing" wabbit on ~ 4th lap
( early laps not on youtube
trust me, i saw it live
he shouda gone 7'21 with decent pacing )
- they are not doped-up fraueleins : 47.6 & 21,71 multiple times & 7'40+ numerous times + outrageous chucks, were huge dopers
ask valerie adams
guerrouj was doped to the eyeballs on the same ped cocktail as lance armstrong
komen only had EPO
th go math wrote:How are 9 people once in a lifetime talents? Can you not count?
Perhaps you were too busy being a wise-ass to see that we agree. See, my post was entirely tongue-in-cheek. In the future it would behoove you to be less reactionary, and more thoughtful.
A lot of Olympic medal winners you never here from again. WR holders you never forget. Nils Schuman v Wilson Kipketer. Anyway some people just do not peak in an Olympic year. Thats why WC medal are just important as Olympic medal as they are generally racing the same people as they would have in the Olympics. Komen was off his peak by 2000 but if he had of been at his peak then he would have won the Olympic 5000m and maybe a bronze in 1500m. Sadly for Komen they do not have 3000m at the Olympics, like sadly for Johnny Gray they didnt have 600m at the Olympics. Those two names are never far away from my lips though. WR breakers remain in our memories because at a point in time they were the absolute and objective best ever on the planet at a particular point in history. Olympic champs come and goe and it is very subjective really as some race are missing the best athletes and some are run in very slow times. IMHO.
If only he peaked in 2000 wrote:
Would Noah Ngeny and Million Wolde still have their OG Medals?
Thoughts?
What if Komen, Ngeny and Wolde hadn't been on EPO back in those days? lol
TheyWereAllDoped wrote:
If only he peaked in 2000 wrote:Would Noah Ngeny and Million Wolde still have their OG Medals?
Thoughts?
What if Komen, Ngeny and Wolde hadn't been on EPO back in those days? lol
But no one uses drugs anymore. Lance stopped using them after '99 and look at his precipitous decline in performance ...
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