Thank you Evan Jager Thread!

Hell yeah! This guy is so good for the sport of distance running. He epitomizes the huge contrast to the demeanor and presentation of that other team in Beaverton.

When he ran his debut 8:26 I said he was going to be the next American record-holder "sooner than later". Now I think he will be the next World record holder -- sooner than later.

Thanks Evan! The race today was amazing. It was very exciting watching you take it to the best in the world. I am actually struggling to come up with the words that I want to say. Thanks again Evan Jager!!!

Thank you Evan Jager.

Your beautiful hair, and great interviews and general fastness is inspiring.

I was screaming during the race, alone in my room at the computer, and even though my family though I was psycho, it was amazing.

Fantastic Run.

He has a shot to win gold at worlds this year.

One of the greatest performances in American distance running history; even with the fall. Well done, Mr. Jager!

The King is dead. Long live the King!

Evan is a boss. He wins his next DL, worlds, and then 7:55 @ DL final. Birech caught a break in this one. It would be cool if a three way rivalry developed between Evan, Jairus, and Kemboi/Kipruto. Bittersweet

malmo wrote:

He epitomizes the huge contrast to the demeanor and presentation of that other team in Beaverton.

This quote clearly is the problem with how most people view other today. Jager presents himself in a way that makes us feel good that he is faster than us. Others present themselves and look in such a way that goes against all that we have believed of how a good guy is supposed to act and look. afterall if a guy has poor presentation he MUST be a bad guy! Well at least that is what every Disney movie taught me.

malmo wrote:

Hell yeah! This guy is so good for the sport of distance running. He epitomizes the huge contrast to the demeanor and presentation of that other team in Beaverton.

When he ran his debut 8:26 I said he was going to be the next American record-holder "sooner than later". Now I think he will be the next World record holder -- sooner than later.

I agree Malmo, but you think world record? I remembered that prior thread where I said he would go sub-7:55 someday, and I took a lot of flak. This kid could attack the AR in the 5,000 too, and I hope he does.

Thank you, Evan! Your run is an example of all that is good in running.

Sad to see him fall. Hopefully he has another race as good as this one where he stays upright.

Evan your work of art today changed the discussion. We're no longer wondering if you can break 8. We're no longer wondering if you can medal. We're now wondering, if maybe one year from now, you'll be the world record holder, world champion, and olympic champion. That's how amazing your run was. It was a gamechanger. And while before today you were one of the most exciting American runners to follow, you're now one of the most exciting runners in the world to follow. Thank you!

HE LOST, He fell!, Second place is the first loser. This is not T-ball where everyone get's a trophy god dang it. He messed UP!. Call it like it is. This is not women's soccer where the poor little English girl kicks in an own won goal and the world feels so bad for the little darling.. If Wayne Rooney kicks in a own goal in the World CUP they would run him out of the UK. Jagar dont fall down next time dude!

Evan Jager, you are a beast. This run will now spark fear into everyone in the world racing against you, something not many American distance runners in history have accomplished.

Devil Dog wrote:

Evan your work of art today changed the discussion. We're no longer wondering if you can break 8. We're no longer wondering if you can medal. We're now wondering, if maybe one year from now, you'll be the world record holder, world champion, and olympic champion. That's how amazing your run was. It was a gamechanger. And while before today you were one of the most exciting American runners to follow, you're now one of the most exciting runners in the world to follow. Thank you!

I'm wondering if he's on the same thing as Rupp.

wejo wrote:

Evan,

Thank you for inspiring me today.

I'm in Glacier National Park and drove to get some pizza and a beer and see if I could find wifi to catch part of the meet.

I never saw your race live, but once I heard the results it inspired me. Then even after knowing what happened when I watched it I still got goose bumps.

A bold day for American distance running.

I'm excited about this run, too. But, I need someone to talk me off the ledge. Is he really better than a number of Kenyans who were probably drug cheats? Really ?!?

Man, I want to believe this. But I think I want to believe this because Evan comes off as the real deal. So, too, though, did a lot of guys I know, or, am pretty sure cheated.

I'm not accusing Jager. Unlike Salazar (and by extension, anyone he coaches...) I don't have any reason in the world to think Evan is getting some pharmaceutical help - except, he will almost certainly run faster - could have run faster today- than did Moses Kiptanui. who dominated the steeple in the age of EPO. The LR cognoscenti seem to be behind this guy. To them, I say: help me restore my faith.

malmo wrote:

Hell yeah! This guy is so good for the sport of distance running. He epitomizes the huge contrast to the demeanor and presentation of that other team in Beaverton.

Now I think he will be the next World record holder -- sooner than later.

This is a beyond absurd quote. Nearly everyone (and I've seen you on this bandwagon) on here accuses the Kenyans of doping en masse, and that all the "amazing" world records are clearly doped (so both these viewpoints indict Shaheen's WR), and yet you think a "clean" American can beat that time? Amazing ignorance and hypocrisy.

If you think Jager clean is capable of 7:52 clean you've either

a) lost your mind, or

b) need to take back everyone of your doping insinuations towards "EPOpians" and kenyans.

Jagger running this kind of time is just as suspicious as any time out there. He's *never* shown THIS type of potential. His winter performances were rather weak in fact.

And Schumacher reveals nothing. We have no idea what meds, gray area stuff, or flat out cheating is going on with him. I guarantee you he does the altitude chambers/rooms.

I am happy to believe him as clean, but then let's give the same benefit of the doubt to every athlete out there. Let's not convict other athletes without proof, and then put Jager on the pedestal of "beyond suspicion."

Great performance. I just hope he knows what he is doing as far as being in top form for the WCs. He looked in top form now with that run. Is he going to sustain this for another 2 months?

We'll see.

Link wrote:

I'm excited about this run, too. But, I need someone to talk me off the ledge. Is he really better than a number of Kenyans who were probably drug cheats? Really ?!?

Man, I want to believe this. But I think I want to believe this because Evan comes off as the real deal. So, too, though, did a lot of guys I know, or, am pretty sure cheated.

I'm not accusing Jager. Unlike Salazar (and by extension, anyone he coaches...) I don't have any reason in the world to think Evan is getting some pharmaceutical help - except, he will almost certainly run faster - could have run faster today- than did Moses Kiptanui. who dominated the steeple in the age of EPO. The LR cognoscenti seem to be behind this guy. To them, I say: help me restore my faith.

I already answered your question. Firstly, the "LR cognoscenti" as you put it, are often full of it and you know it.

Secondly, as I explained, either all of these people need to back off their "everyone's on drugs" viewpoint, or, obviously, be extremely suspicious of Jager. You can't have it both ways. If you are going to believe in Jager, then believe in 26:17, believe in 7:20, believe in 2:02 marathons, believe in 3:26 flat, believe in Lagat, believe in Geb, and even stop short of convicting Rupp and Farah before all the proof is out (which they have not done, they've convicted them more or less). Yes, even believe in 9.58 and 19.19. and 26:44 AR.

Yes, if Jager can run 7:52-55 as many like malmo are saying, then, yes, all of the above guys could do what they were doing clean also. Sure, it doesn't mean that everyone of those times were pure (probably one or two weren't), but if you are going to assume in a blanket fashion that most of those times are tainted (as so many do on here), then you are a hypocrite or insane to believe Jager is clean. You can't have it both ways.

Rojo, are YOU listening? Remember you chart of EPO era vs HUGE DROP in WR's, shouting that your strong correlation meant causation? Of course you do. But now a clean American can match (or nearly match) a time of that magnitude? Either he's a cheat, or the Drug Era wasn't anything like so many on here believe it to be.

Well? Convict Jager, or apologize to those you've slandered.

Oh please. These guys train for a maximum 4 hours a day: even the least charismatic of them can find time to present themselves well. The fact that the vast majority of male American distance runners don't speaks to either their absolute awkwardness (ie Rupp) -- i don't see why i should applaud somebody who sold their social skills for fast times on the track -- or their indifference -- in which case you shouldn't ask me to care about them either.