Evan JAGER on pace for 7:55 steeple before fall. Would CLEARLY beat Galen RUPP at 5000 if they raced - YES OR NO

depends on who got their IV before the race.

+1 didn't Jager run like 20-30 mpw in high school? Did he really start as a sprinter?

Oh yeah? wrote:

Roelants wrote:

Quick list of active U.S. runners more talented but not as accomplished as Rupp:

Wheating

Ritz

jäger

Centro

Andrews

hall (at his peak)

true

Fernandez

Solinsky

Rupp ran 4:01, 8:03, 13:37 and 29:09 in high school. By himself his hs PRs beats everyone on the list except Fernandez at 3000. Rupp has more raw talent than all of them put together.

Nobody runs the 5000 or 10000 in high school. So, what you are basically saying is that Rupp has the best mile PR but comes in behind Fernandez in the 3000 and 2-mile (which is where it's at as far as HS distance running is concerned).

Now, based on his one top mark I imagine that you would conclude that Rupp is less talented than Fisher, Webb, Ryun (obviously), Danelson, Liquori, Sage, Maton, Verzbicas, Hall (converted), Magness, Riley, Centrowitz,...

Got it.

All these years later and neither Manzano nor Centro (for now) has run as fast as Wheating did in his first European 1500m race straight out of college. I'd put German next on the talent list. Jager ran the fastest 5000m of any American 20 or younger at the time, 13:22, in 2009, along with 3:38/3:54/7:41, before injuries.

Predictable wrote:

jagermeister spilled it wrote:

If he concentrated on the 5k for a season he could definitely take down that doper's AR.

You guys are awesome. Have Lagat and Rupp convicted as drug users but the possibility that Jager may be never crosses your mind.

Until something is said by someone in the media or in coaching down the line and then you will be convinced he is

See -

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

Nobody runs the 5000 or 10000 in high school. So, what you are basically saying is that Rupp has the best mile PR but comes in behind Fernandez in the 3000 and 2-mile (which is where it's at as far as HS distance running is concerned).

If you're legendary male high schooler then you run a 5000m to prove how you match up with the greats (Prefontaine, Virgin, Lindgren, Rupp, Ritz, etc,etc, etc). If you're not then you don't then you DQ yourself from even being considered. Same thing with college, doesn't matter what you ran in some local races, if you dodge NCAAs indoors for World Jr. XC then you DQed yourself again.

clearing it up for you wrote:

Predictable wrote:

You guys are awesome. Have Lagat and Rupp convicted as drug users but the possibility that Jager may be never crosses your mind.

Until something is said by someone in the media or in coaching down the line and then you will be convinced he is

See -

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&thread=6605880&id=6606586#6606586http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/3078642.stmhttps://www.propublica.org/article/former-team-members-accuse-coach-alberto-salazar-of-breaking-drug-rules

Evan Jager = Schumacher = NOP/Salazar

Is Tegenkamp Blood Doping?

oiskjdkjshdhd wrote:

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

Nobody runs the 5000 or 10000 in high school. So, what you are basically saying is that Rupp has the best mile PR but comes in behind Fernandez in the 3000 and 2-mile (which is where it's at as far as HS distance running is concerned).

If you're legendary male high schooler then you run a 5000m to prove how you match up with the greats (Prefontaine, Virgin, Lindgren, Rupp, Ritz, etc,etc, etc). If you're not then you don't then you DQ yourself from even being considered. Same thing with college, doesn't matter what you ran in some local races, if you dodge NCAAs indoors for World Jr. XC then you DQed yourself again.

OK, so your IQ is below 85. Got it.

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

OK, so your IQ is below 85. Got it.

Thank you, I know you're trying to compliment me, since 85 would be at least three standard deviations above yours.

oiskjdkjshdhd wrote:

Pointing Out the Obvious wrote:

OK, so your IQ is below 85. Got it.

Thank you, I know you're trying to compliment me, since 85 would be at least three standard deviations above yours.

Ooooh, good one!

LOL

No effing way wrote:

Thank you! There was no way in the world he was running 7:55. To suggest so is disrespectful to both jager and those who have run faster. 7:57 is what I believe he would could possibly have run AT HIS BEST have run. I love jager and hope he places high at worlds, but the reason he hit the hurdle is BECAUSE he was slowing down. The suggestions of 7:55 are bs. 7:57 would have been fantastic and about the max of the run.

Jager never HIT the final barrier. If you watch the video closely you'll see that he landed wrongly on his foot. So saying that he hit the last barrier because he was slowing down is inaccurate.