TIMEX wrote:
It's 3 days since Kara said she would give more evidence over the coming days and there's been zilch!
START THE TIMER!!
I like the turn this thread has taken. Eric Lindsey is a former elite runner who is good friends with Salazar and Mark Zuckerberg.
Excellent to see Farah come out and fully deny the allegations. He can now move on from this and get back to what he does best - winning Golds.
ATNA wrote:
KMB wrote:
Who is the guy on his right who looks like Gabe Jennings?
You really don't know who Elijah Greer is?
Aqua Saturn wrote:
Excellent to see Farah come out and fully deny the allegations. He can now move on from this and get back to what he does best - winning Golds.
Saturn Teal wrote:
Aqua Saturn wrote:
Excellent to see Farah come out and fully deny the allegations. He can now move on from this and get back to what he does best - winning Golds.
What Mo's does best it receive used books and magazines in the mail from Alberto's secret shipping service. The shipping service is temporarily unavailable, requiring Mo to stay home with his wife until it is safe to travel and receive packages again.
Separated at birth:
Jennings: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ChoWROC984c/maxresdefault.jpg
Greer: http://ak.c.ooyala.com/wzdnVsYjokZ8OhIdxx6xUxCeCEsZ9NZJ/Ut_HKthATH4eww8X4xMDoxOjA4MTsiGN
KMB wrote:
ATNA wrote:
KMB wrote:
Who is the guy on his right who looks like Gabe Jennings?
You really don't know who Elijah Greer is?
Sure, I know the name and the great accomplishments. I've just never seen him in so-called street clothes.
TIMEX wrote:
It's 3 days since Kara said she would give more evidence over the coming days and there's been zilch!
START THE TIMER!!
Heath wrote:
Of all the athletes I have encountered in years of volunteering at Hayward, Kara and Adam are by far the most genuine people I've ever met. Their love for the sport, and each other, is wonderful to see. Her interview was sad and touching. She is truly in pain an I have no doubt she is telling the truth.
Interesting Quotess wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo0QBCuYZcc
Kara's response. I fully believe her and I know the truth will prevail.
TrackCoach wrote:
Kara's public outrage would have been far more credible if she had been so public when AlSal was coaching her to PRs.
The names wrote:
KMB wrote:
Who is the guy on his right who looks like Gabe Jennings?
These are the names in the caption, from L to R
Sig Oheleman, Anne Kesselring, Steve Bence, Elijah Greer, Eric Lindsey, Mark Perry, Andy Wheating, Wade Bell, Gary Sievers
http://www.rvgoddess.com/BLOG/2014/JUNE/061314.aspx
Shameful Duck wrote:
The names wrote:
KMB wrote:
Who is the guy on his right who looks like Gabe Jennings?
These are the names in the caption, from L to R
Sig Oheleman, Anne Kesselring, Steve Bence, Elijah Greer, Eric Lindsey, Mark Perry, Andy Wheating, Wade Bell, Gary Sievers
http://www.rvgoddess.com/BLOG/2014/JUNE/061314.aspx
Isn't Lindsey another case of stolen valor, on par with Mike Rossi?
TrackCoach wrote:
Courage is what you do when nobody is looking and you have nothing to gain. Kara does come across as telling the truth, but so has a lot of notable liars. Kara's public outrage would have been far more credible if she had been so public when AlSal was coaching her to PRs.
KMB wrote:
But her waiting until after the project to approach USADA doesn't make what she's now saying any less credible. You can call all of the people who only came forward after leaving the NOP scoundrels or cowards or whatever label you feel fits, but please don't say that you can't at least appreciate their hesitation.
How many "whistleblowers" have you heard of whose stories have proven to be on target have come forward in the midst of whatever it is they disclose? "Better late than never" may be a trite observation, but think about it. If you had a great job and knew your boss was operating in a criminally fraudulent way (possibly with your own involvement), or sexually harassing employees, and also knew that you'd have a hard time getting a similarly lucrative job if you went to the authorities, how likely is it that you would shit on your own livelihood, even if it was The Right Thing To Do?
KMB wrote:
TIMEX wrote:
It's 3 days since Kara said she would give more evidence over the coming days and there's been zilch!
START THE TIMER!!
Goucher and Magness critics, coming up on three weeks of silence by Alberto Salazar:
"It took the BBC and Epstein two whole years to put together their stories. It's only fair to give Alberto adequate time to respond."
The same people, three days after Kara Goucher's interview at USATF Nationals"
"Come on, out with it already! She has no credibility!!"
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
you've done nothing but defend them for the past few weeks, other than of course simultaneously convicting Salazar of running a doping program on some of the best US runners).
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
You are saying that maybe the Gouchers did not "Do...The Right Thing" but yet you seem to totally have their back on that. Isn't this ENTIRE DEBATE about "The Right Thing To Do" ? Of course it is.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
I can come up with an analogy somewhat similar to yours and say: 'if you were in a similar situation to Salazar or Rupp, might you too have dabbled on the "dark/grey side" of things' ?
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
So yes, "The Right Thing to Do" was not to stay silent about supposed wrongdoings when it suited you, then leave your coach and tell the world that you owed your whole career to him and that you are "ETERNALLY grateful" to him and that you "LOVED being coached by him" and even loved him personally, and then suddenly, do a 180 degree turn and claim he is doping his runners.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
However, yes, all of that doesn't mean the accusations are wrong.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
But with the Gouchers, the accusation themselves are the 2nd part of the equation on why people are bashing them: they're incredibly weak! Please don't make me rehash the silliness of them, but they've simply got nothing. Thyroid pills for someone with a thyroid condition already on thyroid pills??!? Conjecture over a Rupp performance related to some offhand comment he made a few weeks before about his fatigue levels?! A strange story about a possible IV he probably never received? These are the weakest allegations of doping I've ever seen.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
The Goucher are hardly "whistleblowers", they are more correctly engaged in "whistling Dixie."
Dumb.asssssdsss wrote:
It's way more than 3 days since Salazar called her a liar. And she didn't have much to respond to. Salazar had numerous things dating back more than a decade and he tried to get details from outside sources. You need to scale it, she's sbiut 100 times longer than Salazar response time when you take that into account. Or when you take into account she already knew everything before he responded.
NOP all good now. wrote:
Hi Kara,
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33723197
