"People have been threatened at this meet" - Kara Goucher

She does not come across as a woman who is lying to me. This thing will drag on forever.

It proves NOP needs to die. Their nutcase fans are willing to accept doping because that is the only way their team can win. NOP fans are worse than the rabid southern college football fans who nothing else to live for except a "their" team.

Kara's body language was that of someone telling the truth. Whether you believe her version or not means absolutely nothing. The contrast in body language with Mo, Centro and Rupp is striking. There is no comparison. The boys are uncomfortable in their interviews.

From following the Lance case, the only thing that has or hasn't surprised is the lack of EPO talk.

There was that talk about refrigerated vials, but was that not credible or was it allergy stuff?

Body Language wrote:

Kara's body language was that of someone telling the truth. Whether you believe her version or not means absolutely nothing. The contrast in body language with Mo, Centro and Rupp is striking. There is no comparison. The boys are uncomfortable in their interviews.

I agree. Unfortunately, the collective IQ between those three is about 120, so I wouldn't take their words or squirms too seriously.

The USADA interviews take words, squirms, and body language into consideration. It is part of an interviewer's job to look for signs of failure to tell the truth.

you guys realize that she means her husband, Adam, has started threatening people, right? She is worried he is going to go nuts.

She lost. Not only that, she was pretty much humiliated. Maybe if she had spent more time training and less time throwing BS accusations around, she would have avoided the latter. I mean, obviously she still would have lost, even with all the training in the world, because she doesn't have the talent. But if she had worked harder, she might not have been totally thrashed.

LOL ... NOP is dead fanboys

Yeah she definitely isn't lying. The interview is really good and honest. Not sure why she ran, but I love the work she is doing off the track.

I hope people understand the legal significance of that simple statement.

Thoroughly Humiliated wrote:

She lost. Not only that, she was pretty much humiliated. Maybe if she had spent more time training and less time throwing BS accusations around, she would have avoided the latter. I mean, obviously she still would have lost, even with all the training in the world, because she doesn't have the talent. But if she had worked harder, she might not have been totally thrashed.

How many WC medals do you have?

She looked people in the eye, didn't have to think long and hard before each answer (when you tell the truth, you don't need a good memory), and conducted the interview after a bad race without any sort of rules on what questions could be asked by the media.

He can cut and paste all the emails and evidence he likes, but let's see Salazar give a lengthy interview conducted by multiple media members, and without seeing any of the questions beforehand.

Another note... what happened between Alberto and Adam that made their relationship so contentious? She said she's going to reveal it.

to me wrote:

She does not come across as a woman who is lying to me. This thing will drag on forever.

I agree. Impressive interview from a simple believability standpoint.

I have never been much of a Kara fan but I have to say she comes across very strongly as honest, straightforward and caring about the sport and about the truth.

Kudos

Believe her about what????

Let's assume everything she says in the ProPublica article is true, what do we have?

1. AS wanted her to take Cytomel on one occasion in particular and she refused.

2. AS wanted Rupp to have an IV at the WC in 2007 and 2011 (why only there? she claims to have been privy to hearing AS in 2001, but not (?) in 2007??). Unfortunately, the original reporting doesn't tell us whether he received a saline IV or not.

3. There's something suspicious about Rupp's original AR in the 10,000, because he admitted to being toast just a few weeks before that record.

She was with Salazar for seven years. This is it???? AS might be guilty as hell, but where are the claims about doping?????

Thoroughly Humiliated wrote:

She lost. Not only that, she was pretty much humiliated. Maybe if she had spent more time training and less time throwing BS accusations around, she would have avoided the latter. I mean, obviously she still would have lost, even with all the training in the world, because she doesn't have the talent. But if she had worked harder, she might not have been totally thrashed.

She ran almost as badly as Alberto did in Helsinki - and just about as badly as he did in L.A. But I'm sure that's irrelevant to you.

"...what happened between Alberto and Adam that made their relationship so contentious?"

This will come out later.

I do--which is why it is so hard to believe. If AS threatened people not to speak in what might be an ongoing criminal investigation, that would be a felony (minimally, intimidating witnesses) and should immediately be reported to law enforcement officials. Is anyone doing that?

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

I hope people understand the legal significance of that simple statement.

Monty, Monty, Monty ...

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Learn to think.

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