Adam was well within his rights to go after Salazar for Salazar attempting to get Kara to take drugs. How is it that fanboys are so stupid they can't figure that simple reality about relationships? Salazar has a relationship with Rupp and he defends Rupp to the bitter end.
he's a spoiled brat who couldn't handle losing and needed someone to blame. In 2008, Adam Goucher suffered a number of injuries and his performance was off. Adam had run the 32nd fastest 10,000m time that year and had missed the cut for the Olympic Trials for that event. Adam petitioned the USATF, which granted him an exception that allowed him to compete as the 25th runner in the field. I coached Adam for the Trials and we were hopeful he would qualify for Beijing. He didn’t. In the warm-up area after that race, Adam became extremely emotional and belligerent toward me and the race plan we had developed together. My relationship with Adam never recovered.
I continued to coach Kara, however, and she continued to be successful. My relationship with Adam remained strained, but, Kara and I were able to overcome it. Adam also played a bigger role in her training, travel arrangements and other matters. He continually complained. Finally, things came to a head in Daegu when Adam went on an insulting rant. That was the last straw.
After Daegu, I emailed Adam about his behavior. I told him that I did not want him involved in Kara’s workouts any longer and if that was not acceptable to Kara I would find a new coach for her. Kara was copied on this email and I also forwarded it to Magness and others in the Oregon Project.
Kara responded shortly thereafter defending Adam and copied in Darren Treasure of the Oregon Project. I responded that Kara had to decide if she wanted me to coach her or not. I told her: I will not coach you if Adam continues with his actions and feelings. I care too much about you to go forward with a bound to fail proposition. Going forward, I’m no longer going to be handling any of your travel, hotels, etc. Adam…can set it up.
Kara then responded: Alberto, I love you and love being coached by you. But if you don’t want to coach me anymore, please tell me now. I cannot go through another year by myself like this past year. If you don’t want to coach me, please tell me now so that I can figure out what I am going to do. I can’t stress enough how much I love you coaching me, but I can’t handle these types of threats leading into an Olympic year.
To suggest I was threatening Kara is absurd. I just didn’t want to fail her because her husband didn’t agree with my approach. In the end, I could not coach her if Adam was involved.
When I returned from Brussels, Kara and I met and agreed it was best that we part ways and she find another coach. After our meeting we exchanged additional emails and parted friends. See Exhibit 25. I told her I still loved her. She wrote back that while we disagree on some things, we both agree that we care a lot for one another and hope that never changes. She wrote: “I have loved you for years now and don’t see that changing.” See Exhibit 25.
Adam is a joke wrote:
he's a spoiled brat who couldn't handle losing and needed someone to blame. In 2008, Adam Goucher suffered a number of injuries and his performance was off. Adam had run the 32nd fastest 10,000m time that year and had missed the cut for the Olympic Trials for that event. Adam petitioned the USATF, which granted him an exception that allowed him to compete as the 25th runner in the field. I coached Adam for the Trials and we were hopeful he would qualify for Beijing. He didn’t. In the warm-up area after that race, Adam became extremely emotional and belligerent toward me and the race plan we had developed together. My relationship with Adam never recovered.
I continued to coach Kara, however, and she continued to be successful. My relationship with Adam remained strained, but, Kara and I were able to overcome it. Adam also played a bigger role in her training, travel arrangements and other matters. He continually complained. Finally, things came to a head in Daegu when Adam went on an insulting rant. That was the last straw.
After Daegu, I emailed Adam about his behavior. I told him that I did not want him involved in Kara’s workouts any longer and if that was not acceptable to Kara I would find a new coach for her. Kara was copied on this email and I also forwarded it to Magness and others in the Oregon Project.
Kara responded shortly thereafter defending Adam and copied in Darren Treasure of the Oregon Project. I responded that Kara had to decide if she wanted me to coach her or not. I told her: I will not coach you if Adam continues with his actions and feelings. I care too much about you to go forward with a bound to fail proposition. Going forward, I’m no longer going to be handling any of your travel, hotels, etc. Adam…can set it up.
Kara then responded: Alberto, I love you and love being coached by you. But if you don’t want to coach me anymore, please tell me now. I cannot go through another year by myself like this past year. If you don’t want to coach me, please tell me now so that I can figure out what I am going to do. I can’t stress enough how much I love you coaching me, but I can’t handle these types of threats leading into an Olympic year.
To suggest I was threatening Kara is absurd. I just didn’t want to fail her because her husband didn’t agree with my approach. In the end, I could not coach her if Adam was involved.
When I returned from Brussels, Kara and I met and agreed it was best that we part ways and she find another coach. After our meeting we exchanged additional emails and parted friends. See Exhibit 25. I told her I still loved her. She wrote back that while we disagree on some things, we both agree that we care a lot for one another and hope that never changes. She wrote: “I have loved you for years now and don’t see that changing.” See Exhibit 25.
What, exactly, did they disagree about?
I like how Salazar talks about Adam's injuries as though they were unrelated to any coaching errors.
So Adam is a joke and his wife is too.
Should have not done the interview with her...duh.
Adam is a joke wrote:
...it only took me 10 minutes to write my epic drivel.
LOL ... another unregistered name used Salazar's PR firm.
Adam is a joke wrote:
When I returned from Brussels, Kara and I met and agreed it was best that we part ways and she find another coach. After our meeting we exchanged additional emails and parted friends. See Exhibit 25. I told her I still loved her. She wrote back that while we disagree on some things, we both agree that we care a lot for one another and hope that never changes. She wrote: “I have loved you for years now and don’t see that changing.” See Exhibit 25.
So Adam was upset that AlSal was boning his wife? Seems pretty standard....
I've met many of the elites and the only one less likable than Adam was Rupp (unless you count Alberto as well)
Adam is a joke wrote:
he's a spoiled brat who couldn't handle losing and needed someone to blame. In 2008, Adam Goucher suffered a number of injuries and his performance was off. Adam had run the 32nd fastest 10,000m time that year and had missed the cut for the Olympic Trials for that event. Adam petitioned the USATF, which granted him an exception that allowed him to compete as the 25th runner in the field. I coached Adam for the Trials and we were hopeful he would qualify for Beijing. He didn’t. In the warm-up area after that race, Adam became extremely emotional and belligerent toward me and the race plan we had developed together. My relationship with Adam never recovered.
I continued to coach Kara, however, and she continued to be successful. My relationship with Adam remained strained, but, Kara and I were able to overcome it. Adam also played a bigger role in her training, travel arrangements and other matters. He continually complained. Finally, things came to a head in Daegu when Adam went on an insulting rant. That was the last straw.
After Daegu, I emailed Adam about his behavior. I told him that I did not want him involved in Kara’s workouts any longer and if that was not acceptable to Kara I would find a new coach for her. Kara was copied on this email and I also forwarded it to Magness and others in the Oregon Project.
Kara responded shortly thereafter defending Adam and copied in Darren Treasure of the Oregon Project. I responded that Kara had to decide if she wanted me to coach her or not. I told her: I will not coach you if Adam continues with his actions and feelings. I care too much about you to go forward with a bound to fail proposition. Going forward, I’m no longer going to be handling any of your travel, hotels, etc. Adam…can set it up.
Kara then responded: Alberto, I love you and love being coached by you. But if you don’t want to coach me anymore, please tell me now. I cannot go through another year by myself like this past year. If you don’t want to coach me, please tell me now so that I can figure out what I am going to do. I can’t stress enough how much I love you coaching me, but I can’t handle these types of threats leading into an Olympic year.
To suggest I was threatening Kara is absurd. I just didn’t want to fail her because her husband didn’t agree with my approach. In the end, I could not coach her if Adam was involved.
When I returned from Brussels, Kara and I met and agreed it was best that we part ways and she find another coach. After our meeting we exchanged additional emails and parted friends. See Exhibit 25. I told her I still loved her. She wrote back that while we disagree on some things, we both agree that we care a lot for one another and hope that never changes. She wrote: “I have loved you for years now and don’t see that changing.” See Exhibit 25.
Completely cowardly for AlSal to write all of that in an email to Adam instead of having a real conversation about it like a principled human being.
Kara continually claimed how much she loved Alberto, but yet she rats him out and attempts to destroy his reputation without any real substantiation to back up her claims. If she was really that fond of him it implies she would have also respected him - so why not just leave him alone and mind your own business? Not sure what she had to gain by doing this...? Sounds like Adam is a real negative influence on her as well
Bekele wrote:
Kara continually claimed how much she loved Alberto, but yet she rats him out and attempts to destroy his reputation without any real substantiation to back up her claims. If she was really that fond of him it implies she would have also respected him - so why not just leave him alone and mind your own business? Not sure what she had to gain by doing this...? Sounds like Adam is a real negative influence on her as well
Only your friends can betray you.
Bekele wrote:
Sounds like Adam is a real negative influence on her as well
Salazar is a negative influence on everyone who gets near him.
Salazar's Ego wrote:
Adam was well within his rights to go after Salazar for Salazar attempting to get Kara to take drugs.
Herriman wrote:
"Kara Goucher never said she wasn't ever on Cytomel or a patient of Dr. Brown. She simply said that Alberto told her to take Cytomel early in 2011 when didn't have a prescription for it and that allegation stands."
Then at best Kara was trying to mislead everyone.
To say "well, I was on Cytomel and my Dr prescribed it, but on one particular day my prescription hadn't been renewed and AS told me to borrow Galen's". Is a much different story than "AS asked me to take some of Galen's prescription meds."
You see? At best she is totaly misleading everyone if she actually had a prescription for the meds and took them regularly and just didn't have a current prescription that day. If she hid the fact that she indeed did take Cytomel (perhaps even before she was with NOP???!!) she's screwed.
She's no longer credible until she produces documentation that she did not take Cytomel except when pushed to do so by AS, and has A LOT of explaining to do.
From good 'ol Dr. Brown:
In an interview, Brown said he did not prescribe a controlled substance for Salazar’s sons or other research subjects as part of an experiment. “No, absolutely not,” Brown said. “I didn’t do that, and would not do that. I would never do that.”
Salazar experiments on his sons was a decision made only by Salazar. Salazar decision to give out drugs to everyone was his decision alone. Even his pal Dr. Brown has abandoned Salazar.
...[Salazar] killin' off pros [Gouchers] and noobs [Magness], non selective...
What's love got to do with it?
Adam is a joke wrote:
http://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35523713-alberto-open-letter-part-2Not like we haven't always known Adam Goucher is a childish, self-entitled prick.
In the TV Program:
Adam: creep coached to look at his wife in empathy, who only succeeded in looking creepily vacant.
Kara: creepily wears no makeup to try and look more washed out, plain jane and aggrieved.
Magness: Coach who creeps on his female athletes. = Creeper. What are the odds Magness dating tweet ends up to be a former or current female athlete at his school. --This is a typical pattern for college running coaches.
Didn't one Johnsons marry a former athlete he coached in college?
"I like how Salazar talks about Adam's injuries as though they were unrelated to any coaching errors."
-Adam is his own worst enemy. Overtraining central. Does not ever listen.
I don't have any problem with adam being a jerk. But he needs to get a job! It is unseemly for a grownass man to go through life without every working. He is an unemployed bum. He thinks he can Wdubya his way through life the same as rojo and wejo.
I've seen all the attacks on Adam Goucher over the years here. Let's get this straight, in a relatively weak era for American distance running, and despite psychological problems at what should have been the height of his career, he accomplished a great deal:
hs student body president
footlocker xc champion
2nd ncaa xc as a freshman
4 NCAA titles
7 USATF titles
13:11 5000m pr
At one point it looked like he might even become a threat to BK. He also married well. That doesn't make him less of a man.
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