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why???? wrote:

I know we all want answers, but honestly Alberto is probably working on his defense as quickly as he can. As you have probably noticed, many of the NOP athletes have said that Salazar has been absent lately and they have limited access to him, so I assume that time is being spent on his statement. If he had issued a statement prior to this point it would have just been another blanket, lawyer written piece of trash that no one cares for.

He's going to break up with the message board creeps via a powerpoint presentation.

Bring it on Powerpoint wrote:

He's going to break up with the message board creeps via a powerpoint presentation.

Epic battle: Massage board creeps vs message board creeps.

We'll "mark your words". Why don't you sign you're own name so we know who to look for in a couple of years?

Congratulations ... In addition to the cesspool that is the message board, the main site is now just a tabloid.

This quote from the Telegraph story sounds so incredibly ludicrous it makes AlSal sound like a complete idiot or that Kupczak is making it up, because Androgel comes in little packets of say 50 mg (5 grams of gel) that I use, and you have to rip or cut open . The more recently introduced pump dispenser does not have easy access if you flip the nozzle head, but also no measure of dosage control that the packets offer. The latter would give a potential cheater a means to maintain dosage within the limits to beat a test. And a slight contact as say, touching his bag, would in no way be enough to skew the test results over the limit. And why would he tell Kupczak if he thought it was remotely illegal? Arrogance breeds carelessness, yes, but that stupid again? ?

The quote :

“When we were at an airport together Alberto would say: ‘Don’t let anyone touch my bag – I have my testosterone cream in there. I don’t want anyone to get contaminated accidentally’,” Kupczak told The Guardian. “My thought was: if you are taking testosterone for yourself there are so many ways you can do it. So why risk something that could possibly contaminate the athlete?”

Just maybe, like Brady and Deflategate, this is a tempest in a teapot.

Say what you want about Salazar, but the clock is really juvenile.

RunningAntelope wrote:

Say what you want about Salazar, but the clock is really juvenile.

I think that the clock is pretty clever. Of course, I can also easily imagine that folks might make defensible complaints about it. But a complaint of "juvenile" doesn't make much, if any, any sense.

thisguy wrote:

It is apparent now that USADA has been made aware of Salazar's group for years, but they seemingly have not found sufficient evidence to take action. In light of the recent allegations presented en masse, will they now take action with some sort of hearing?

What is USATF's responsibility in all of this? Would they be the one's to call for some sort of hearing - or at least call for USADA to do so?

The absence of any organizational response to all of this honestly is bizarre to me. Do you think the NFL, MLB, or NBA would remain virtually silent in light of allegations against their brightest starts?

Except, USADA does not have the authority to take action.

Evidence that USADA has no authority is the Armstrong ban. USADA sent the recommendation to the cycling federation who reluctantly initiated the ban.

The only one with authority would be USATF or IAAF. And guess who is their #1 sponsor... There's enough scandal history with both organizations to suggest money is the first priority and sport integrity waaaay down the priority list near office supplies.

Whiny Winy wrote:

There is little doubt that Alberto and Galen and Nike have convened a team of top lawyers who will come out swinging.

Your answer to allegations is intimidation through legal bills. It's a tried and true approach that has worked for decades, but, clearly does nothing to suggest the federation that manages the sport has any integrity whatsoever.

And, Alberto was doping mostly within the rules, so, no sanctions even though the guy is doping his own kid so his athlete never tests positive.

If what comes out of this is that the IAAF/USATF are perfectly okay with doping, and certainly okay with abusing exogenous Testosterone then that's some progress.

Count me among those who think the clock is not the right strategy, because it puts the emphasis on Salazar, rather than a culture that says operating in a "grey area" is fine.

But starting a boycott or some sort of social media campaign against Nike, as wejo proposes, I think is a really good idea. Make the company do more than just issue bland statements, and have them actually police the athletes they endorse. That wouldn't eliminate doping, of course, but it would put some financial pressure on the side of staying clean.

"Your answer to allegations is intimidation through legal bills. It's a tried and true approach that has worked for decades,"

Hiring a PR damage control firm: expensive.

Hiring a team of lawyers: expensive.

Salazar and Rupp can't bankroll those for very long.

Many of the fake pro-Nike posts by the PR firm workers will disappear soon. Only the NOP fans will be left to provide a defense. Eventually, like A Duck stated he is doing now, they will stop, and wait for further instructions from Salazar: his long delayed statement.

thisguy wrote:

It is apparent now that USADA has been made aware of Salazar's group for years, but they seemingly have not found sufficient evidence to take action.

Rupp was the most tested runner in both 2013 and 2014. Of course that wasn't a coincidence. USADA did what they're expected to do after receiving lots of allegations. I guess USADA knows every detail of the story that has come out and will come out. But they're powerless. Which implies that this story will fade unless USATF/IAAF goes after Sleazy.