Donovan Brazier 1:47.55!!!

speechless wrote:

Braizer>Fisher

He would smoke Fisher if he did the Dream Mile. This kid is insanely talented. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's going to make the Olympic 800 team in 2016. He's that special.

lol

This doesn't mean Brazier can run a sub four mile. I'll go out on a limb and state that he won't come close to making the Oly team in 2016 and will be lucky to break 1:46 in college. You go back to the OP and drinking case after case of warm beer.

speechless wrote:

Braizer>Fisher

He would smoke Fisher if he did the Dream Mile. This kid is insanely talented. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's going to make the Olympic 800 team in 2016. He's that special.

You do drugs, Danny?

who do you mean by "they peak early"?

Watch him. Watch the way he's running - winning - these races.

It's possible. 19 years old is young, but not unprecedentedly young, we all know this.

Where's Myles Marshall

Harvard's already ruining him as a runner. If he decided to go to harvard, he obviously doesn't care about getting any faster. He will however make a lot of money after college

Guy missing wrote:

Where's Myles Marshall

You can't just expect him to be able to break 4 in the mile or beat Fischer just because he ran an insanely fast 800. Yes, he ran 4:07...but that's a long way from running 4:00 or better. He's not gonna drop 7 or 8 seconds just like that. He could probably have run run like 4:05 or maybe 4:04 and still be a ways back from Fischer.

jjjjj wrote:

who do you mean by "they peak early"?

I can't speak for every one of top 800 guys in high school, but I do know that Michael Granville did not go on to beat his high school best. I don't believe the case is the same with Brazier. If you look at his progression, you'll notice he has improved a lot! His freshman year, he ran 2:06. His sophomore year, he ran 1:54. His junior year, he ran 1:48. He may have had only a 1 second improvement this year, but I'm sure that was due to the lack of competition. I have high hopes for this guy.

I really hope he is able to hold up to the rigors of more intense training. His stride and turnover needs work or an understanding of the limitations he will face. immense talent but most definitely not a classic distance type guy at the next level.

I think it's worth noting that he still negative split this race. He went with the pack out in 54, then destroyed them the last lap in 53. He looked so easy trackside after te first lap like he was just cruising. With better 800m pacing for time I wouldn't be surprised if he went 1:45's that race. Crazy dude

Among the top guys all-time, George Kersh is #2, and he went on to run 1:44 low. Brazier is within a couple years of that level. After that, who knows? But he already looks like a pro. He's run 1:47/48 with hs runners way behind him.

twittering debutante wrote:

Still, you are saying this guy is going to survive two or three rounds of 800 heats at the Olympic Trials in 2016 and in the final run 4 seconds faster than he is running now. You can't be serious.

Sure why not? A guy like Robby Andrews went from running 1:48.6 to 1:45.54 in 1 year. I would take the odds of running 3 seconds faster (1:44.5) making the team. Big drops are possible when training intensity goes up AND there is a need to run faster to win races. Or he can get injured and never run this fast again.

I don't know much about him but am rooting for this young man.

What do we know about his high school, training, mileage, personality?

In the middle off his track season he's running 24 miles a week, and takes off Sunday's. Not that it championship season he said he's only doing 18. Doesn't seem to be lifting the weight hard neither.

Why TAMU!? They have a history of under performing when it counts. have fun not really developing.

i don't think b. blankenship running 1:48 has anything to do with how fast brazier can run a mile. blankenship couldn't beat donovan brazier in a 400m. guaranteed. i bet BB can't break 50 in a 400m

jjjjjj wrote:

right on with his goal from last month:

"While Donavan won’t head to Texas A&M until next fall, he might get a chance to compete against the best college runners in the nation next month at the USA track and field outdoor nationals.

“1:47.5 would be ideal, because that’s when you can qualify for the outdoor nationals out at Oregon, so that’s pretty much my goal here,” Brazier said."

4th all-time performer, fifth all-time performance, and several 1:48s to back this up as well. Maybe he could run sub 4 right now?? Blankenship just ran 1:48+ and he is about a 3:52 miler.

Looks like he chose the wrong meet. Here are the top 800 results from NBON-

Meet Name: NB Outdoor Nationals

Event 7 Boys 800 Meter Run Championship

================================================================

Sections 1 and 2 at 1:45pm; Sections 3 and 4 at 4:25pm

National: 1:46.45 5/31/1996 Mike Granville, Bell Gardens, CA

Meet: 1:48.01 6/16/2013 John Crossley, W Carteret,Mrhd C,NC

Name Year School Finals

================================================================

1 762 John Lewis 15 Cheltenham, PA 1:48.33

2 2118 Myles Marshall 15 Kingwood, TX 1:48.86

3 2242 Isaiah Harris 15 Lewiston, ME 1:49.63

4 4385 Avery Bartlett 15 Tallahassee, FL 1:49.66

5 3982 Shane Dillon 15 Winnipeg, MB 1:49.80

6 749 Vincent Crisp 15 Charlotte, NC 1:50.71

7 5161 Tyson Robinson 15 Chesapeake, VA 1:50.81

8 2814 Jeramey Hampton 15 Suwanee, GA 1:50.93

Fast heat splits-

1 John Lewis Cheltenham Striders-PA 1:48.33 49.41 [49.41] 1:48.33 [58.93]

2 Myles Marshall Kingwood Tc-Tx 1:48.86 52.95 [52.95] 1:48.86 [55.91]

3 Shane Dillon Stride Ahead Tough Track- 1:49.80 53.33 [53.33] 1:49.80 [56.48]

4 Eric Brown Wings of Glory Tc-Wi 1:51.37 53.53 [53.53] 1:51.37 [57.84]

5 Sam Ritz Germantown Academy Tc-Pa 1:52.93 52.61 [52.61] 1:52.93 [1:00.32]

6 Elijah Inuwa Central Academy Tc-Nc 1:53.50 53.05 [53.05] 1:53.50 [1:00.45]

7 Drake Gauthier Una-Mi-Flint-Stanbury 1:53.65 52.13 [52.13] 1:53.65 [1:01.52]

8 Rey Rivera Old Bridge Hs-Nj 1:56.64 56.00 [56.00] 1:56.64 [1:00.65]

9 Marc Rienas Old Tappan Tc-Nj 1:57.09 54.76 [54.76] 1:57.09 [1:02.34]

10 Lucas Trapp Elk River Tc-Mn 2:04.02 55.66 [55.66] 2:04.02 [1:08.36]

Would have been awesome to see Brazier go out with the pack and chase down Lewis.

Bonus: The sub 1:50s from heat 1 ran Brazieresque neg splits-

1 Isaiah Harris Lewiston Tc-Me 1:49.63 55.57 [55.57] 1:49.63 [54.06]

2 Avery Bartlett Una-Fl-Tallahass-Bartlett 1:49.66 56.42 [56.42] 1:49.66 [53.25]

It was 92 degrees in Greensboro during the 800m at New Balance.

It was 68 degrees in Shoreline during the 800m at Brooks PR.

Plus, it was more windy in Greensboro.

I don't think Brazier is the one that chose the wrong meet (although I don't even know if Lewis and/or Marshall were invited to Brooks -- though I would think they were as the #1 and #3 returners from last year).

I don't believe this

Michigander wrote:

In the middle off his track season he's running 24 miles a week, and takes off Sunday's. Not that it championship season he said he's only doing 18. Doesn't seem to be lifting the weight hard neither.