WHY can there not be just 1 person who is clean? I mean totally clean, who ingests only actual food and drink?
WTF is the matter with these people? Nyquil? For crap's sake, work out, get a mental grip, train hard, eat well, and put yourself to sleep.
Nyquil IS a performance enhancer. If you don't get a good night's sleep the night before a meet, chances are you won't perform as well. That's part of the game, part of life. Nyquil is an artificial, chemical, performance-enhancing drug. As far as I know its use does not run afoul of anti-doping rules.
Although not in violation of the rules, its use is truly pathetic, a crutch for a person who is unable to control themselves successfully, and who has the psychological disturbance of being unwilling to accept who they are naturally. Nyquil, as far as I know, contains no nutrients.
Here are the ingredients of some of the Nyquil formulations:
Acetaminophen
Dextromethorphan
Doxylamine succinate
Pseudoephedrine
Phenylephrine
Diphenhydramine hydrochloride
Chlorpheniramine
It is sought after for meth production, for its pseudoephedrine.
Really? The great Ashton Eaton needs this stuff to be great? He can shove it. No wonder he doesn't want to talk about doping. He can take his world record and shove it. The real question is, what would he have done without this list of pharmaceuticals? What a joke, what a fake.
You be the judge.
Ashton Eaton admits to Nyquil use
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Reportage wrote:
You be the judge.
I judge you to be dumb. There is already a thread on this just a few posts below yours. Why did you start a whole new thread???
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I think this thread has a different basic argument.
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Yes, this one is different. Eaton believes he is pure. He takes Nyquil which is not something somebody would just generally mention. Eaton doesn't seem to know about WADA rules for Nyquil.
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I also don't know the WADA rules. I'm assuming that at least some of the active ingredients are on the banned list above a certain level, to which "normal" Nyquil use (whatever that is) would never get you.
Fascinating. Looks like the last real athletes were people like Owens, Nurmi, and Blankers-Koen. -
When to take Nyquil is easy to determine.
http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-6104/nyquil+oral/details
It is also addictive.
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Nyquil is taken by a big chunk of the population. I wouldn't take that stuff and I insisted that it stop being given to my daughter when she was sick, because of the side effects of some of the ingredients, including the cough suppressant, which is a really bad idea to take in my view when you have a lot of crap in your throat and lungs that coughing gets out.
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Hahahaha Nyquil? Really? There is no way Nyquil does anything to enhance your performance. It's a sleeping medication and all it's gonna do is make you tired, and if you fight it during the day you'll start tripping. If anything, it's gonna make you feel nauseous if you take it during the day. I've taken nyquil by accident instead of dayquil during the day before and I felt really tripped out and couldn't focus on my homework...all I wanted to do was go to sleep. If you think this is a performance enhancing drug you are an absolute moron.
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WADA is complete moron, okay....
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WADA is complete moron, okay....
http://www.usfreediving.org/PDFs/2008%20USADA%20Wallet%20Card.pdf
It says that Nyquil IS permitted under examples of permitted medication. Just so you guys stop freaking out. -
Your claim was it DOES NOT enhance performance. Why is use of it banned when in competition? Because it is deemed to potentially enhance performance. Duh ....
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Does anybody here ever bother to READ the Anti Doping code?
pseudophedrine is allowed ANY TIME as long as the urine concentration is not greater than 150 mcg/ml. USADA recommends stopping taking it 24 hours before an event just to be safe, not because it is banned in competition.
If you can buy Nyquil at a store without showing your ID to a pharmacist and signing the Patriot Act crap, it does NOT contain psuedophedrine.
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Freaking out wrote:
Your claim was it DOES NOT enhance performance. Why is use of it banned when in competition? Because it is deemed to potentially enhance performance. Duh ....
Well considering that it doesn't say it's banned and actually is under the PERMITTED section...it's clearly not banned. It doesn't say that it's anywhere so I'm not sure why you're convinced that it is banned. Your argument is absolutely non-existent haha. -
Eaton has always been careful to remain in the ethical gray area. He knows that use of the drug can only result in a ban if used at certain times and present at certain levels, and he makes sure to push the boundaries while narrowly avoiding use that could produce a positive test.
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"There is no way Nyquil does anything to enhance your performance. It's a sleeping medication..." -
Did you watch the interview? I'll follow up with him but his point was he doesn't take anything.
He was saying when he gets sick he just takes Nyquil that is how I took it. His coach said he doesn't even take a multivitamin.
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Just like an athlete is allowed to use an inhaler "when sick"?
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wejo wrote:
Did you watch the interview? I'll follow up with him but his point was he doesn't take anything.
He was saying when he gets sick he just takes Nyquil that is how I took it. His coach said he doesn't even take a multivitamin.
An athlete is allowed to take Nyquil when sick.
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An update on this:
1) Since 2006 Nyquil has not contained Pseudoephedrine according to wikipedia.
2)USADA says this on Pseudoephedrine.: "
Pseudoephedrine is an ingredient in many cold and flu medications. WADA advises athletes to discontinue taking pseudoephedrine at a dose of less than 240mg per day AT LEAST 24 hours prior to the time defined as “in-competition.” Be advised, in some cases this may not be enough time for the medication to clear the body, such as a slow-metabolizer or because of drug interactions. USADA recommends avoiding pseudoephedrine-containing cold and flu products for several days in advance of competition, and using a non-prohibited alternative instead."
3) According to Wikiepeida Nyquil-D does contain Pseudoephedrine. I don't see that as being on the Vicks website so it may not be made anymore. http://vicks.com/en-us/browse-products/nyquil
Wikipedia said it contained 30 mg of Pseudoephedrine. So according to that if Eaton was taking a product that may no longer be made he could take 8 of them and still be in the clear. -
Newer versions of Nyquil contain acetaminophen. Paracetamol is the U.S. name for actaminophen.
Although actaminophen is allowed for use by WADA, in or out of competition, it helps extend workouts.
Acetaminophen significantly extends time to exhaustion in cyclists
"Past studies have shown the medication can be used to relieve exercise induced pain; leading to longer workouts.
"Researchers conducted another study to find out if paracetamol could increase exercise endurance in the heat too. This time they discovered it does, but not because it controls pain.
"In their studies, scientists found a single dose of paracetamol increased cycling endurance. The reason is likely related to the ability of the common over-the-counter medication to keep body temperature lower, thus making it easier to exercise under hot conditions."
http://www.emaxhealth.com/1020/first-study-shows-paracetamol-aka-acetaminophen-helps-exercise-endurance-heat
So, athletes like Ashton Eaton should be aware what Nyquil variations can do, and should decide whether they should use it or not, WADA approval notwithstanding.
