Ashton Eaton and his coach Harry Marra had an informative talk about his 2014 season of the hurdles and the decathlon but most LRCers will find most interesting his comments on the NOP doping investigation.
Full article with video here:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/06/worlds-greatest-athlete-ashton-eaton-doesnt-even-take-flintstone-vitamins-because-of-doping-problems-in-track-and-field/
When asked about his comments on the NOP allegations he said, "I don’t think that I’m going to answer any of these questions because for every doping story there’s 15 stories of athletes who’ve come from nothing to something, to inspire, or to make some sort of connection with somebody. That could be a young kid saying, ‘hey I’m in the same situation as this person and look at what they do’, look at Andre De Grasse what his story was, coming from nothing… so I’m not going to contribute to take away from this (by discussing the doping allegations).”
On whether he takes any supplements or prescription drugs:
"Because of all that I don’t take anything. I think Nyquil is what I take."
His Harry Marry said, "If Ashton was looking for a sponsorship for Flintsone vitamins they wouldn’t touch him, he doesn’t even take Flintstone vitamins.”
World's Greatest Athlete Ashton Eaton Doesn't Even Take Flintstone Vitamins
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LetsRun.com wrote:I think Nyquil is what I take."
Nyquil contains Pseudoephredin, a WADA banned substance -
All sprinters have to take cold medicine year round. Very sickly bunch.
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Pseudoephedrine is not banned out of competition and can be taken in competition in certain amounts.
See here:
http://www.globaldro.com/us-en/search/BrandStatus.aspx?brandid=44238&countryid=3&sportid=10&exact=0&searchid=2049992&userid=1&show=All&search=Pseudoephedrine&newSearch=false
So if you get sick you can take it. -
Yes, up to 240mg, depending on how well you pee it. You don't have to be sick. Out of competition you can take any stimulant, even amphetamines.
But that is the whole point, he's obviously not sick, and mentions Nyquil like it's a regular thing, used as a stimulant not a medication. Legal or not, that's a bit more than Flintstone vitamins. That's something to think about, for all those young kids out there looking to come from nothing and inspire. -
Stop the crazy kenyan wrote:
Nyquil contains Pseudoephredin, a WADA banned substance
Isn't nyquil/pseudoephedrine/drugs worse than a multivitamin?? Weird for the coach to be broadcasting this.
I think the real takeaway from this is that even the best athlete in the world doesn't fully know about banned substances and what is or isn't allowed. The ubiquity of banned substances in everyday common products is sometimes surprising. -
If an NOP athlete stated that he took NyQuil the headline for this post would be all about the banned substances it contains
When any other athlete mentions NyQuil, the moderators make a headline about Flintstone vitamins instead
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Why would anyone take nyquil for advantage anyway? Wouldn't it make you fall asleep at the track or something?
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you is me wrote:
Stop the crazy kenyan wrote:
Nyquil contains Pseudoephredin, a WADA banned substance
Isn't nyquil/pseudoephedrine/drugs worse than a multivitamin?? Weird for the coach to be broadcasting this.
I think the real takeaway from this is that even the best athlete in the world doesn't fully know about banned substances and what is or isn't allowed. The ubiquity of banned substances in everyday common products is sometimes surprising.
Didn't they take the pseudoephedrine out of the regular Nyquil a while ago? I think the pseudoephedrine version you have to ask for at the counter.
I think Eaton's point was that if he has a cold, he might take medicine, but regularly, he isn't taking a damn thing. -
Bring Back the 880 wrote:
you is me wrote:
Isn't nyquil/pseudoephedrine/drugs worse than a multivitamin?? Weird for the coach to be broadcasting this.
I think the real takeaway from this is that even the best athlete in the world doesn't fully know about banned substances and what is or isn't allowed. The ubiquity of banned substances in everyday common products is sometimes surprising.
Didn't they take the pseudoephedrine out of the regular Nyquil a while ago? I think the pseudoephedrine version you have to ask for at the counter.
I think Eaton's point was that if he has a cold, he might take medicine, but regularly, he isn't taking a damn thing.
Sure but that's just an assumption you're making. Another question to ask would be how often is he sick or how often he takes nyquil. Maybe he takes it for sickness, maybe he takes it to fall asleep. Whichever it is, is it training-induced sickness/insomnia? This is in light of Lauren Fleshman's (spelling?) comments. -
eaton went to eugene clown kollege. Pretty much zero chance that he wasn't a doper there and isn't a doper now.
Sorry if that makes you little oregon fanboys all butthurt, but those are the true facts. -
What an avoidant, weak answer by Eaton.
Obviously, if you care about athletics and fair competition you'll agree with his sentiment, but he still completely fails to address the real issue here.
I don't know what to think about any exceptional performances at the moment because of the questions hanging over the NOP.
If you truly give a hoot about ensuring that athletes are given their due, you'd talk about the issue of potential/perceived cheating or unethical practices because it undermines your sport, and you and your fellow athletes et al's efforts.
It doesn't matter how hard someone's worked or what background they've come from, or difficulties they've been through on the way to their achievements. Especially if athletes performances are brought into question with the revelation that it's possible to manipulate prescription drugs to gain an unfair advantage.
Also, it's interesting how he says
"I'm not going to contribute to taking away from this", following the reporter describing him as an ambassador for the sport, implying that to discuss, or give an opinion on something that is undermining the sport would be a negative thing to do.
Is Eaton happy with the implications that the NOP scandal present? As a lifelong follower of athletics, and an increasingly deluded one at that, I expect a more convincing response from the world's greatest athlete. -
I took Eaton with his coaches answer as saying he doesn't take anything prohibited. If he gets sick he just takes Nyquil which is legal.
An update on Nyquil below. It DOES not contain Pseudoephedrine.
1) Since 2006 Nyquil has not contained Pseudoephedrine according to wikipedia.
2)USADA says this on Pseudoephedrine.: "
Pseudoephedrine is an ingredient in many cold and flu medications. WADA advises athletes to discontinue taking pseudoephedrine at a dose of less than 240mg per day AT LEAST 24 hours prior to the time defined as “in-competition.” Be advised, in some cases this may not be enough time for the medication to clear the body, such as a slow-metabolizer or because of drug interactions. USADA recommends avoiding pseudoephedrine-containing cold and flu products for several days in advance of competition, and using a non-prohibited alternative instead."
3) According to Wikiepeida Nyquil-D does contain Pseudoephedrine. I don't see that as being on the Vicks website so it may not be made anymore. http://vicks.com/en-us/browse-products/nyquil
Wikipedia said it contained 30 mg of Pseudoephedrine. So according to that if Eaton was taking a product that may no longer be made he could take 8 of them and still be in the clear.
I did not take his answer to mean he was popping Pseudoephedrine every day.
