Lauren Fleshman speaks out- "I definitely do think that's an ethical violation."

I love it when guys crown themselves as victors on the internet.

annoying people wrote:

There is something called due process in the United States and until that due process is over can you all just get a life, STFU, and stop cluttering up this board with your stupid comments.

5/10 This one is pretty good.

The post is trying to shut discussion of the story down with shaming. There is a nice twist at the end where there's even something to move on to...

The false analogy of the legal system and a sporting infraction is a good one. Many people don't understand arbitration is not judicial in any sense.

Good work here. Except more than 10 athletes, each with a different story of Nike and Alberto Salazar's doping is a huge deal. Funny how USATF has said nothing, and done nothing.

runDirtyrun wrote:

Funny how USATF has said nothing, and done nothing.

They're quietly working away behind the scenes building their case, trust me.

InWyo wrote:

A LetsRun thread with Lauren Fleshman as a subject, that is almost entirely positive about Lauren Fleshman.

This is HUGE!

Her Picky Bars taste like crap.

"18 former NOP and coaches have spoken out." Well, 35 witnesses in Ferguson either backed the hands up don't shoot myth or gave even sillier testimony like the policeman stood over Brown and shot......similiarities here. No hard evidence, recollections of events and hearsay. Disgruntled witnesses in both cases who have a beef. In the case of nop, all the witnesses are former members whose sense of righteousness, not to mention memory, got better after leaving. Why can't 18 witnesses who worked with Salazar nearly every day lack anything that can be calleda smoking gun?

gwalkerruns wrote:

"18 former NOP and coaches have spoken out." Well, 35 witnesses in Ferguson either backed the hands up don't shoot myth or gave even sillier testimony like the policeman stood over Brown and shot......similiarities here.

Sadly, there's no doubt in my mind that you see this absurd comparison not only as valid, but as a knock-down argument.

I'm not surprised you can't type a single complete sentence in understandable English.

I WOULD be surprised to learn that you can feed yourself or wipe your own ass without the assistance of a live-in caregiver.

No Dr. Delirious, I did know such thing and haven't even been on the computer since that post. The funny part about posters like you, not just you, is if someone disagrees you automatically claim that all of the posts are sock puppets, an excuse to make yourself look smarter than you really are. I'm not a LRC employee, whether you believe it or not. Being a moron, that's you, is what's asinine. Ask for an IP lookup nutjob, you'll see who's telling the truth. Your love for Fleshman, who wouldn't give you the time of day, is rather telling. She's weak and seeking to get her name out there (after others came forward )as much as possible...think money you twit. She's done jack squat in terms of running peabrain. Have a nice night in your parent's basement with the your "laminated:)" Lauren poster:):):):)

1992 called wrote:

LRC employees have come on multiple of the "Oiselle bash" threads in the last year and pointed off that the immature bashing is done by one or two people. You can see the same has happened here, and once he slipped up and replied to himself, in an embarrassing fashion, he had to head back to the home page and start new threads.

Hating Fleshman and/or Goucher for being outspoken is asinine.

gwalkerruns wrote:

"18 former NOP and coaches have spoken out." Well, 35 witnesses in Ferguson either backed the hands up don't shoot myth or gave even sillier testimony like the policeman stood over Brown and shot......similiarities here. No hard evidence, recollections of events and hearsay. Disgruntled witnesses in both cases who have a beef. In the case of nop, all the witnesses are former members whose sense of righteousness, not to mention memory, got better after leaving. Why can't 18 witnesses who worked with Salazar nearly every day lack anything that can be calleda smoking gun?

Nice try here. The race analogy inclusion is good tinder to pollute the thread. Sadly, all the other personal attacks that follow make it a bad comment.

Many of these posts have tried a new "It's over. Move on." shame/redirection thing. You should have worked that into it without the personal attacks on the interviewees.

We haven't gotten to Hitler analogies yet, so, it's not so desperate at the NOP web community coordinator dungeon.

3/10.

onceagain wrote:

I don't know if Fleshman is telling the truth or not, but it seems both her and Kara G. are more about keeping their names out there then anything else. Does Fleshman even race anymore? If not why is Osielle sponsoring her? I know Kara ran 15:40, but that is far from a major sponsorship performance. I know she hasn't raced a 5k in years, but neither had Flanagan.

This is a garbage position, and is not only irrelevant to the discussion, but is WRONG. Fleshman has a unique perspective very few involved with the sport have, and that is why her viewpoints are important to the discussion. Yours is not.

gaglrs wrote:

I think Lauren is being very honest, but I also feel Lauren is a publicity freak and couldn't stand being left out of the current and hot running news. She makes me a sick to my stomach over her constant need for publicity and attention. Message to Lauren, keep your trap shut more often and your face out of media for a little while and people might actually want to hear what you have to say a little more.

And exactly WHO ARE YOU? And why and how is YOUR garbage position on the topic at hand have any relevance?

Just go away, please.

Sciatica Road wrote:

onceagain wrote:

I don't know if Fleshman is telling the truth or not, but it seems both her and Kara G. are more about keeping their names out there then anything else. Does Fleshman even race anymore? If not why is Osielle sponsoring her? I know Kara ran 15:40, but that is far from a major sponsorship performance. I know she hasn't raced a 5k in years, but neither had Flanagan.

This is a garbage position, and is not only irrelevant to the discussion, but is WRONG. Fleshman has a unique perspective very few involved with the sport have, and that is why her viewpoints are important to the discussion. Yours is not.

Have you ever heard the phrase "Throw under the bus"? The Gouchers and Lauren have broken the cardinal rule of sports (pro athlete) etiquette. "I love Alberto....but" "Alberto is a great guy....but". Lauren and Team Kara were loving life being part of NOP, suckin' on their inhalers and juicin' up their thyroids. The going gets tough and their panties start to bunch up and they bail out. Now that their careers are DONE and they've moved back to be on their old coaches TIT thinking they can relive the glory days and run fast again they can't keep their mouths shut!! Why not speak up when you're at your peak??? Before taking a big rip off that PED inhaler during mile repeats step up and say "Hey Alberto!!! I don't want to take a hit off the Albuterol bong!! Oh now you're the righteous savior of "Clean" running???....Wah Wah Wah!!!!

Wow, bitter much?

Even the other ineducable gits and thundertards here are gawping at this and murmuring, "Wow. This guy just embarrassed hisself but good."

I didn't say you are a LRC employee, genius, I said that LRC employees have pointed out in past Oiselle bashing threads that it is usually one or two posters using a bunch of different handles to immaturely rip on them.

I also pointed out that you responded to yourself and ripped on yourself on the last page. That has to be embarrassing.

I don't love Fleshman by any means, but I do enjoy pointing out how idiotic someone has to be to criticize her for being outspoken. It takes the same kind of idiocy as claiming she accomplished nothing as a runner.

1991 wrote:

That's your contribution? You sit around and wast part of your day typing that? Sucks to be you.

1991 wrote:

Yes, the wast (waste) was on purpose as I knew it would provoke you to post again. You're a sad little man.

Looks like the president of the Kara-Lauren Fan Club got all butt-hurt. So before you start slinging insults (thundertard???? Is that from a show on the Disney Channel you watch with your mom before she tucks you in at night???) and calling people names you should know what you're talking about. I guarantee to you this, I know more about this stuff than you'll ever know. Without being an idiot try responding to the content of the post and tell me what is inaccurate about it.

Wow, use your brain much? Did you read he posted, or just the easy words?

"Dear Lance Armstrong,

A doctor who intentionally harms a patient will never practice medicine again because the central tenet of medicine is to DO NO HARM. A lawyer who lies under oath or commits a crime will never practice law again, because adherence to the law is the foundation of their profession. If a financial planner steals a clients money, if a teacher has a sexual relationship with a student, each profession has its unforgivable sin, and in sports it is doping. I do not wish for you to go to hell, or live a miserable life, I simply want you, along with all the other cheaters, to find a new profession so that mine continues to mean something..

Lauren Fleshman"

Read more:http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5005960&page=6#ixzz3dXURZxp0