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    • Fred Flint
      • Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 9:21PM
      • Fred Flint
      • 5K/10K: same predictable races. Very slow, Eddie and Eric waaaay better than the rest.
        1500: glad to see Chad win but cripes slower than most HS State meets.
        800: Slow again!!!! I can't even remember who won.
        Steeple: best of the lot.

        I thought things would be fast in Eugene. Or competitive. Or something.

        And listening to Larry Rawson more than 20 seconds makes me want to gauge my eyes out. Will we need to listen to him for the rest of our lives??? Can't they try someone else??
    • Positive Contribution
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 9:28PM - in reply to Fred Flint
      • Positive Contribution
      • So listening to him makes you want to gauge your eyes out? That doesn't make sense because you'd still hear him.
    • runner85
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 9:31PM - in reply to Fred Flint
      • runner85
      • It was very windy. Most H.S meets don't run the 1500. The 5k was exciting if you were aware of the dynamic.

        Start watching sprints if you wanna see fast times.
    • Fred flint
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 10:06PM - in reply to runner85
      • Fred flint
      • What was the dynamic of the 5K I missed??
        After a 4:30 first mile I would've bet the farm on Cheserek/Jenkins going 1-2.
        Same as 10K after first mile.

        And thanks for the sanity check: without my eyes I would have to let Larry Rawson paint the picture for me and that wouldn't be good. Other high level televised sports don't talk down to the viewers. Ex. 'I'm giving you a mile split because 1600 is too hard for you to process.' I'm thankful it is available but don't enjoy Middle School level analysis. Is it just me?
    • -_-
    • anacondarunner
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 10:37PM - in reply to Fred Flint
      • anacondarunner
      • Agreed. It's really unfortunate that it's come to this, but like I said in the live thread, 3:54 is just embarrassing. And spare me the nonsense about how I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate the tactics involved -- when it's THAT slow, it's actually not particularly tactical at all. The only strategy is to jog until there's one lap to go. It's just not what the sport is supposed to be about. High school meets are so much better.
    • wejo
      co-founder
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 10:38PM - in reply to -_-
      • wejo
        co-founder
      • I think most sit and kick races aren't that entertaining for the hard core fan. Sometimes the finishes can be dramatic but we didn't have that today.
    • YesMan
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 10:53PM - in reply to Fred Flint
      • YesMan
      • Agreed that these were a boring crop of races. But what are you gonna do? When the prohibitive favorites in the field know they can win off of a sit-and-kick, that's what's gonna happen.
    • The Donger
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 11:03PM - in reply to anacondarunner
      • The Donger
      • Santos might have been top 3 if he led from the gun. If you can run 3:56 solo and a 3:41 semi ta 1-2 guys might be able to kick off that but you took 10 others out of the race. But 7th it is.

        Too bad, I wanted to see him GO today.
    • post it
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/12/2015 11:49PM - in reply to Fred flint
      • post it
      • Its not you, by a longshot.

        Larry may be a nice guy, a distance runner, love the sport, but he and Dwight bore me, make me feel slightly embarrassed, make me never invite my non track friends to watch with me, and essentially take these amazing races and dumb them down.

        They actually succeed in somehow making track less than it is, its crazy.
        Do they have compromising pictures of the producers of the show?
        Its no longer just conjecture that others can do it so much better.
        Listen to Eurosport, BBC, even the old flotrack guys.

        Larry and Dwight missed so many details that actually make the races exciting, but telling stories during the race, instead of calling the races.

        And dont even get me started about all the dull, overly repeated, analogies, or telling us how the 4x400 team is 8th in the world based on a relay meet in May, and on and on and on.
        Call the action on the track, there's no substitute.

        if someone has any idea who has the power to hire and fire the announcers, please publish, i bet we could get 1000's to sign on to a petition or email campaign, asking for announcers as good as the sport itself!!
        If we don't try, then we can't change it.
    • hey
      • RE: Guys NCAA distance races very boring this year 6/13/2015 12:00AM - in reply to The Donger
      • hey
      • The Donger wrote:
        Santos might have been top 3 if he led from the gun. If you can run 3:56 solo and a 3:41 semi ta 1-2 guys might be able to kick off that but you took 10 others out of the race. But 7th it is.

        Too bad, I wanted to see him GO today.
        You're right. He was just foolish. I'm slow and I open up my mile faster than that. All that hype about an honest race and he couldn't live up to it. He had the fastest mile mark during the winter, so the only guys who could've realistically gone with him are Noelle and maybe Callahan.

        Sort of the same story with the 800, but that played out a little better. Super happy to see a SUNY athlete get #4. I hope Bing can be truly competitive one day. They've been on the upswing.