What has the world come to? ESPN to honor Caitlyn Jenner with the Arthur Ashes courage award.

Not everyone is born male or female. There is a spectrum of chromosomal and physical characteristics between male and female. Some kids are born in between. Gender assignment decisions can be made shortly after birth. Or not. Some people have male or female external genitalia and the opposite internal parts - i.e., Caster Semanya has female genitalia, but undescended male gonads. Are you saying you know what's better for someone like this than they do? What looks like self destructive madness to you might actually be corrective self-actualization to them. Yeah, it might seem indulgent and crazy from the outside, but do you really think someone embark on that path (publicly too) if they didn't have a compelling reason?

Ffs ppl wrote:

Everyone is born either male or female. You either produce semen or you produce eggs. No one can impregnate themselves, and no man can bear a child, no matter how gruesomely he mutilates his penis and testes. You are what you are.

No one cares about reality anymore. We worship the fantasy world of delusional misery these poor people are lost in, instead of trying to turn them from their self destructive madness. Jenner is not a hero, he's an emotionally broken man who needs help.

So that photo that went viral talking about "what a real hero looks like" vs Caitlyn Jenner? Well, it turns out there is much, much more to the story.

http://www.bdcwire.com/caitlyn-jenner-facebook-post/?s_campaign=bcom%3Asocialflow%3Afacebook&cid=alible87

lol more to the story..... the guy was still making a point that being under enemy fire is more brave than wearing a dress and being a mentally insane lunatic. It doesn't matter if the mentally insane lunatic happens to be a hero. He was a hero when he was at war, not when he put on a dress and played normal bates mother

jkjdkdkjdkkdk wrote:

Not everyone is born male or female.

Ffs ppl wrote:

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FOR F_CKS SAKE , thats not only insane but it's ACTUALLY against the pc way of putting it. Politically correctness speaking male/female is sex, which is biology. GEnders are woman or a man. Even when you nincompoops try to argue for this pretentious artsy fartsy world of "new normal" you still stumble

alred wrote:

lol more to the story..... the guy was still making a point that being under enemy fire is more brave than wearing a dress and being a mentally insane lunatic. It doesn't matter if the mentally insane lunatic happens to be a hero. He was a hero when he was at war, not when he put on a dress and played normal bates mother

It changed the perspective of the guy who made the meme, a point that flew straight over your thick head.

Caitlyn Jenner is a hero if for no other reason than she holds a mirror up to your bigotry. You go, girl.

The point of his photo was war heroics compared to wearing a bra and dressing up like Betty Davis. Or are you still going to argue they are the same level of heroism?

Lol liberals are ACTUALLY arguing that the troops are pussies compared to a guy dressing in drag

Caitlyn's Got A Gold Medal wrote:

Caitlyn Jenner is a hero if for no other reason than she holds a mirror up to your bigotry. You go, girl.

I am COMPLETELY BIGOTED at the idea that doing an interview with Diane Sawyer and pretending to be a woman is more heroic than a soldier who nearly got his noggin blown off by enemy rounds to save a fellow soldier.

Theres a certified nut who strays around Penn Station who routinely sits on a bench, smelling of Boone's Farm, has 2 teeth,mutters to himself, lice in his eyebrows, and has done massive amounts of narcotics, who tells everyone he's Ronald Reagan.

That I suppose takes courage.

....what are you trying to say with that word pile?

alred wrote:

FOR F_CKS SAKE , thats not only insane but it's ACTUALLY against the pc way of putting it. Politically correctness speaking male/female is sex, which is biology. GEnders are woman or a man. Even when you nincompoops try to argue for this pretentious artsy fartsy world of "new normal" you still stumble

cowerdlylion wrote:

Theres a certified nut who strays around Penn Station who routinely sits on a bench, smelling of Boone's Farm, has 2 teeth,mutters to himself, lice in his eyebrows, and has done massive amounts of narcotics, who tells everyone he's Ronald Reagan.

That I suppose takes courage.

You scared bro?

Hey, will the statute have boobs or a shaft? Or both!?

Olive Oil wrote:

And to the poster who said to stop blaming the PC-left...umm, you are incorrect. When people publicly speak out against this illness and call it for it is, they are not welcomed with discourse - they are called narrow-minded, hateful, and forced to apologize.

They'd be welcomed with discourse if they had any legitimate argument to back it up. Saying being gay is an illness means you're ignorant...not narrow-minded, empty-minded, in this case. And we don't force you to apologize, we just call you what you are. Ignorant.

If you say the Earth is flat, you're not going to be greeted with open discourse.

You may not be intentionally hateful. I don't think you are. But you are unintentionally hurtful.

jkdjflkjdlfkj wrote:

....what are you trying to say with that word pile?

alred wrote:

FOR F_CKS SAKE , thats not only insane but it's ACTUALLY against the pc way of putting it. Politically correctness speaking male/female is sex, which is biology. GEnders are woman or a man. Even when you nincompoops try to argue for this pretentious artsy fartsy world of "new normal" you still stumble

What I'm saying is that in your liberal elitism to 'CORRECT" everyone on gender and sex, you actually got the terms wrong (IF we are using liberal pc philosphy on these things)

You made pc mistakes in your post. If you are going to be pc at least be it.

Can we please stop referring to the crazy man who mutilated his genitalia as " she"? Howstupid and ridiculous does our society have to become

Tateman wrote:

Can we please stop referring to the crazy man who mutilated his genitalia as " she"? Howstupid and ridiculous does our society have to become

Just as soon as you stop referring to your stunted atopic genitals as your "manhood"

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

Olive Oil wrote:

And to the poster who said to stop blaming the PC-left...umm, you are incorrect. When people publicly speak out against this illness and call it for it is, they are not welcomed with discourse - they are called narrow-minded, hateful, and forced to apologize.

They'd be welcomed with discourse if they had any legitimate argument to back it up. Saying being gay is an illness means you're ignorant...not narrow-minded, empty-minded, in this case. And we don't force you to apologize, we just call you what you are. Ignorant.

If you say the Earth is flat, you're not going to be greeted with open discourse.

You may not be intentionally hateful. I don't think you are. But you are unintentionally hurtful.

Speaking of empty-minded: I said trannys like Jenner are ill - gender dysphoria is an illness. Never said that about gays.

Funny youre comparing anyone to flat earthers - that's essentially what anyone cheering on Jenner: the fact that he's a man is now up for discussion because he's mentally ill - similar delusion to a flat earth.

If I identify myself as poor, can I pay less tax?

jenner's dingaling wrote:

Tateman wrote:

Can we please stop referring to the crazy man who mutilated his genitalia as " she"? Howstupid and ridiculous does our society have to become

Just as soon as you stop referring to your stunted atopic genitals as your "manhood"

Sad. Jenner IS a man who mutilated his genitals (he did right? he's not a dude with a pecker and fake tits, right?). Your best argument back is to be hateful and attack a person? Your methods of arguing for respect are flawed- you cant respect anyone with a diferent opinion.

Olive Oil wrote:

jenner's dingaling wrote:

Just as soon as you stop referring to your stunted atopic genitals as your "manhood"

Sad. Jenner IS a man who mutilated his genitals (he did right? he's not a dude with a pecker and fake tits, right?). Your best argument back is to be hateful and attack a person? Your methods of arguing for respect are flawed- you cant respect anyone with a diferent opinion.

You think THAT is hateful? hahahaa

I mean, I feel bad that the guy has stunted atopic genitals. Wait, are you saying he doesn't? Did you take a sneak peak? I knew it!