RE: What is going through Mary Cain's Parents heads right now?

I don't think any physician would jeopardize his or her license for a couple tics off the stopwatch for a child's race. Really?

... tinfoil hat theory ...

Well, it isn't always EASY to get the most effective PEDs without leaving a paper trail. Nevertheless, plenty of people have been nailed dead-to-rights for using these drugs to boost performances. They are obviously either getting those prescriptions filled somewhere without having the doctor write them in triplicate or follow proper protocol, or they have illicit labs (e.g., BALCO) supplying them. And of course you realize that it's possible to purchase steroids online and that some supplement companies have included illegal drugs in their products without labeling them as such. It happens. And it's not all that uncommon either.

The Dark Side wrote:

When I taught school, there was an 8th grade kid in the school who got caught with steroids. Sure, that's probably very rare, but it happens...

She could've left school a little early and there would be girls her own age and it would have not been as much pressure.

agip wrote:

John ODonnell wrote:

Some are suggesting here that if she is released from her Nike contract, she'd have NCAA eligibility. Can anyone explain this? I would think that once she signed the contract and took any money from Nike, she's lost her NCAA eligibility permanently. If someone knows differently, I'd appreciate an explanation. Thank you.

I believe that there are one or two precedents where a professional paid back all cash and benefits earned and the NCAA awarded eligibility.

but I think those cases were small - MC being a professional for a year and being flown all round the world and receiving pro coaching aid...I can't believe the NCAA would go for that option.

Rupp is probably the most well known case of giving his money back. But with the Oregon, Nike, Salazar connection the transition from pro back to college was probably paved, skids greased. Things might not be so easy for Cain if she actually does break from the program which shall not be named.

As I said before, I think it's entirely possible that Cain will transfer to an academically-oriented college on the east coast, but if she does that, why would she want to run in the NCAA system? Most of the schools I think she would want to attend - Princeton, Columbia and Hopkins come to mind - don't offer athletic scholarships, it sounds like she wants to take a break from a competitive running, and when she's ready to go back to competing, there are plenty of opportunities to do so as a professional.

huh?huh?huh? wrote:

What is BCC? I've heard of BBC.

Haven't you seen Naught America? BCC is the opposite of BBC.

You'd be surprised how often BCC gets brought up on African Craigslist sites.

Did she choose Rupp path at NOP? I thought she turned pro outright which means she is ineligible for NCAA.

When she went pro she basically sacrificed her eligibility in the NCAA. She could transfer academically to oregon and then work with andy powell and the other coaches there which would certainly be good but she couldn't be an NCAA athlete. She would have to be unattached and couldn't run at any NCAA conference, regional, or national meets.

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I knew of guys that used steroids back in HS and college, back in the early 80s. Most were using veterinary type steroids for cattle and horses - all played football. One guy started off in track late middle school, early high school running 800/1500, got huge, then dropped down to the 200/400, then moved on to football. He had all of the classic signs, incredible muscle gain, bad acne and swollen face.

Randy Oldman wrote:

The Dark Side wrote:

When I taught school, there was an 8th grade kid in the school who got caught with steroids. Sure, that's probably very rare, but it happens...

http://nypost.com/2014/07/23/growth-hormone-use-exploding-among-high-school-teens/

I think the most obvious reason behind Mary Cain's departure is this investigation and I'm surprised that no one seems to be saying that. It's likely not a coincidence that she decided to leave a couple of weeks before this story came out. The Oregon Project and Alberto Salazar would have known this story was coming for a long time because the journalists reached out to them directly for responses. My guess is that Mary's decision to leave was based on this investigation and not for unrelated personal reasons.

secularshite wrote:

rojo wrote:

Given their Catholic love for each other, I imagine it would have been dismissed.

Rojo, you're an arsehole. Your anti-Catholic sentiment is totally uncalled for.

I am also Catholic, and I took zero offense at Rojo's statement. He was merely pointing out a bond that probably exists between those two families.

Another skinny Canadian wrote:

I think the most obvious reason behind Mary Cain's departure is this investigation and I'm surprised that no one seems to be saying that. It's likely not a coincidence that she decided to leave a couple of weeks before this story came out. The Oregon Project and Alberto Salazar would have known this story was coming for a long time because the journalists reached out to them directly for responses. My guess is that Mary's decision to leave was based on this investigation and not for unrelated personal reasons.

That would make sense if she were running well and if she 100% wanted to be a pro runner a la Alexa Efraimson.

But in fact Cain has been running poorly and she's seemed ambivalent about the pro runner thing for at least a year [recall her very truncated outdoor season last year during which she delayed her debut to go to prom and get her driver's license and cut her season short after world junior to spend time with family.]

I also bet you a a buck that she and her family have had serious concerns about AlSal at least going back to his bizarre behavior in Albuquerque in 2014.

Oh, you're upset that your family would be watched? I have no idea how you must feel. Hahhahha

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She's running the Adidas Grand Prix next week. Only womens distance race is the 8, so looks like she'll be doing that.

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