I enjoyed that, worth getting up at 4am for. On the last lap it looked like Kamworor might pull something off and I still think he did pretty well for a mostly xc/road guy. I just hope he draws the right conclusion from that last lap and has a different tactic for the big one.
er 20 sec PR
george oscar bluth wrote:
My predictions for tonight...
5000m: Won in 13:0low. Rupp 3rd ish. Soi or young Ethiopian for the win.
10000m: Farah wins. No idea how the race will play out but I am fearing it lagging after the pacer drops. 26:47
Nice work.
And thanks to the person who mentioned Levin's time is up and the new record. Cheers
I'm one of those so-called "Mo-haters" but if he ran more races like this instead of ducking competition, there'd be no reason to criticise him. Very impressive win.
Salazar was quoted as saying rupp had more raw speed than Mo a few years ago... To bad he's only been able to tap into it during a 5/10k a few times.
El Keniano wrote:
I'm one of those so-called "Mo-haters" but if he ran more races like this instead of ducking competition, there'd be no reason to criticise him. Very impressive win.
This year, I feel Farah has completely turned that image around. He is racing up front and fearless and Beijing is going to be awesome
It was okay...the commentating. I caught them in a few mistakes. I would recommend less of them on stream and more track action.
I think Kamworor was planning to not push the pace, but to just follow Farah around, and that's exactly what he did.
He's not a kicker, but has an awesome stride for pushing the pace all the way when he decides to do that.
I'm looking foward to the WC and hope that he does.
You could totally see that Mo was pissed that the time was slower than what he was shooting for. But WHAT A HELL OF A RACE!
Brings me to my next question - Weren't Bekele's/Geb's WR essentially set up specifically for WR attempts? It's unfair to compare to compare a effort like tonight with those as a.) the pace makers f'ed up b.) it was a stacked race with something to lose. In those WR attempts, you fall off pace, oh well no big deal, unlike tonight when there were two other studs out for blood.
They had Soi confused for Rop during the last few laps of that 5k i think
I thought Kamworor would push it in the middle. Maybe he is just getting a feel for the 10000 and will push it in Beijing with Karoki.
Legum wrote:
It's so difficult to get a fast 10k outside of Pre so Mo is going to have to get PRs in other distances in order to move closer to Bekele or Haile G. He needs to enter DL 5ks and aim for sub 12:45 this summer.
If Mo can't pace himself to fast times, he will never be close to Bekele. Bekele led in both of his world records.
slicerdicer wrote:
wow farah looks really pissed off. like he's not even trying to hide it.
Pissed about what? Didn't he win?
Exactly, losing the race was in the back of Mo's head that cost him a fast time
Mo will never get a super fast 10k time (
someone wrote:
Mo will never get a super fast 10k time (
There is a 10000 scheduled for the Brussels Diamond League meet later this year. Really hoping that Mo and Galen enter that and decide to really go for it while still relatively close to peak shape.
Someone like Rupp would have to be Mo's draft horse for 8k: getting there in 21:10. Mo would have to give up the sit and kick concept to get it done.
In a later 10k Mo would have to return the favor and do the dog work for Rupp.
Neither of these two will every approach Kenny B's record.
All this announcer support is funny. They are the same guys that have been calling it at some of the major marathons, namely London for a while, as well as on many of the Diamond league broadcasts. I agree there good, but it's nothing new
Hutchings is always there for DL, and Cram I think is on occassions. Different guys for the sprint/field events though
1) How do you get pacers that bad? Barely made it to 4k. I think if pacers make it to 6-7k we get 26:3x high or better
2)Props to Tanui, both Mo and Kamworor owe him. Guy knows it's not a race he can win, but it was nice to seem him take the initiative to at least get a solid time from the race.
3) Minor props to Mo, he didn't totally mess around here, and did cooperate with Tanui some. I think however there was still some timidity there on his part.
4)Kamworor was a total disappointment. Talked and talked about how it would be hammerfest time and then he just sat on while Mo and Tanui did all the work.
That said, his kick was pitiful, so it's possible he was just holding on to the back of the leading duo and didn't have it in him to take some turns in front.
5) Rupps race was reasonable. Would have been nice to see him get up on the pacer...but no one else did either. That said he fancies himself a kicker and may not be in top form yet, so just played it safe.
Liked several things about his race. For one, it was a better time than I expected given his illness/injuries. I expected him to be dying off on 12:10 pace. The other really nice thing is that he ran with serious confidence the last two laps. Made a BIG move at 650 to go up near the front, then took order at the front with 400 to go.
Young ethiopian was way to good for Rupp tonight, but that 650 move probably cost Rupp a second place. Respectable effort for what is a rust buster race.
Still, medaling at 5000 will be a BIG ask for Rupp, as this field lacked in form Alamirew, Ndiku, and Farah. Barring injury I feel confident saying Rupp will win silver at 10,000 in worlds.
The Angel Of Death wrote:
the pace makers f'ed up
The pacesetters got them through 5000 in low 13:20's, probably exactly what they were supposed to do.
it was a stacked race with something to lose. In those WR attempts, you fall off pace, oh well no big deal, unlike tonight when there were two other studs out for blood.
Some people run to WIN. Others run to not lose. You're correct about which kind Mo is.
To WIN would mean meeting his goal pace of supposedly much faster. To take advantage of a rare opportunity in good weather and an absurdly friendly venue, where people fawn over him just because he once trained with Rupp. He chose instead to not risk being beaten in a meaningless early-season race that doesn't even count for diamond league points. He completely wasted his best time trial chance of the year.
Want to know who the WINNER was, it was Cam Levins who put a bold surge on two formidable Kenyans to smash his PR and national record.
On another note what happened to Zane Robertson 27:46?