WEJO VS GATLIN!

Slice on the Bias wrote:

"Rationality" is a myth .

No it isn't.

uhm doood wrote:

reader of the forums wrote:

The talk turned to doping when a foreign journalist asked Gatlin about a study with mice that showed the effects of doping could linger well after the doping stopped. Gatlin was asked what he thought about the study.

Gatlin said, “I think it’s ridiculous. My situation was 2006 – that was a decade ago… they need to go and see what is happening in the medical world, don’t come to me with that. A lot of people have been in the same situation I have been in….I’m not sure why you would match a laboratory mouse to a human being, that’s unfathomable to me.”

What a moron.

Actually you are the moron. Do some research on why mice studies don't prove equal to studies on humans, etc.

Nope.

The difference between Gatlin and J.R. Smith is that no one is claiming J.R. Smith is better at making three's because he killed somebody. You are right, his murder case is irrelevant to what's going on now in the NBA playoffs.

Gatlin IS BETTER AT HIS SPORT because of what he did (and is possible still doing) which is why it warrants questions. Smith's is completely unrelated to his performance in his sport, which is why no one questions him about it.

You're not getting it wrote:

You're not understanding a couple of things, which leads to your fallacy:

1. Chambers isn't anywhere as near naturally talented as Gatlin.

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How do you know that? You also probably said that with Lance. The "naturally talented" pro-rider.

Chambers ran 10.06 as a junior. Gatlin ran 10.08.

Then, Chambers ran 9.87 (before BALCO scandal).

I repeat...Chambers, after the suspension, was 0.12 seconds SLOWER than his previous "dirty" PB (9.87).

If Gatlin is faster NOWADAYS, why he doped back in 2006?

How many male 100-200m sprinters, with 30 years old (or more) lowered their "dirty" PB´s after serving a multiyear drug-ban? And what happened with them after that? Name me at least 2.

I can name Steve Mullings. (After that 9.80, logically, he tested positive)

But look this list of banned sprinters and see the "NORMAL" pattern, like John Capel, Ben Johnson, Dwain Chambers, Tim Montgomery, Mickey Grimes, Mark Jelks, Marion Jones, Dennis Mitchell, etc...

Ben L Wrong wrote:

But look this list of banned sprinters and see the "NORMAL" pattern, like John Capel, Ben Johnson, Dwain Chambers, Tim Montgomery, Mickey Grimes, Mark Jelks, Marion Jones, Dennis Mitchell, etc...

Wasn't Capel busted for weed? Hardly a PED for any sprinter.

Homo Musculus wrote:

reader of the forums wrote:

The talk turned to doping when a foreign journalist asked Gatlin about a study with mice that showed the effects of doping could linger well after the doping stopped. Gatlin was asked what he thought about the study.

Gatlin said, “I think it’s ridiculous. My situation was 2006 – that was a decade ago… they need to go and see what is happening in the medical world, don’t come to me with that. A lot of people have been in the same situation I have been in….I’m not sure why you would match a laboratory mouse to a human being, that’s unfathomable to me.”

What a moron.

Well why would you match a lab mouse to a human?

By Jove man! You have turned medical research on its ear. Years of using animals and insects to research effects on humans are out the window simply because no on thought to ask this question! Thank you for your contribution to science.

Anyone that is going after Weldon is a doping apologist and supporter.

Galtin is a doper. He has never admitted to it. He is no running faster than when he got caught for doping. He is a terrible role model and a cheater. He deserves no respect. The normal rules of polite society go out the window when dealing with a cheater.

If you defend gatlin you defend doping. Bottom line. No semantics, no buts.

wtfunny wrote:

Ben L Wrong wrote:

But look this list of banned sprinters and see the "NORMAL" pattern, like John Capel, Ben Johnson, Dwain Chambers, Tim Montgomery, Mickey Grimes, Mark Jelks, Marion Jones, Dennis Mitchell, etc...

Wasn't Capel busted for weed? Hardly a PED for any sprinter.

Yes, but he was banned by IAAF for 2 years. I was referring to that.

HonestNauman wrote:

Agreed.

Also just wondering how many athletes in T&F have tested positive? How many athletes have the BroJos incessantly referred to as dopers and aggressively interviewed?

Gatlin's supposed first positive was a joke, refer to USADA ruling here that basically agrees with that sentiment:

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/AAA-CAS-Decision-Justin-Gatlin-January-2008.pdf

Gatlin has served his suspension according to the rules and is now competing. You want to change the rules, then actually take action to make that happen. But stop this pretentious, holier than thou BS about something that happened nearly 10 years ago.

The self promoting Gatlin attack dog schtick is really old.

1) I 100% agree with your post except for the last 2 sentences.

I don't get why people think we are anti-Gatlin. Weldon simply asked a question that was logical based on a question he thought Gatlin wanted to answer at World Relays and the French GUys question. Why do people think it's self promoting?

There was zero talk about 'goign after Gatlin'. Weldon just asked a question that he thought was logical. I saw the question, found it to be by far the most interesting/entertaining thing from the press conference and put it up as QOD.

I dont get why the press is so outraged by Gatlin. I 100% agree hsi first positive was a mistake. I also believe he may have been sabotaged with test #2 but have next to zero doubt that he was doping at the time as he was with T. Graham.

But he servved his 4 year ban. I personally think bans for proven intentional doping (which Gatlin's woldn' be) should be life but I kind of admit him.. He's super focused and a super badass. I love his passion for the sport.

I don't get why there can't be mutual respect. Weldon asked a question he should ask - that others won't ask as they want to swim in the Nik e troughl. Gatlin can react angry if he wants. THat's his write. Then we move on.

Why do people have to conlcude that either a) Wejo won or b) Gatlin won (and wejo is an idiot). IN my mind, both people are doing their jobs.