ncaa screws over 10k guy

I don't understand why they just can't look at the video if there's any discrepancy on a runner stopping a lap short?

Why make every runner wear a chip?

This is completely unnecassary

The NCAA screwed this one over completely. I have been an official at some fairly big events, and you would never do something this stupid unless you are sn ignorant official. You never DQ an athlete unless there is a clear rules violation. And because there is no rule this should've never happened.

The chips are meant for counting laps for each athlete. There is no rule that you have to wear one.

How can you violate a rule when there isn't a rule? If this goes to a court of law the NCAA will get torched....

I looked at the rule book and agree that the NCAA officials seem to have had no grounds to remove him from the race. They handed out chips as a matter of convenience. I think it would be a good rule to have, and the athlete messed up, but there does not appear to be any published requirement that chips be worn in a track race if requested by meet officials. They can't just make up new rules on the spot and expect to be able to legally enforce them. The race was videotaped, so they could have verified the number of laps run in that manner if there weren't enough people available to count laps live during the event.

It wouldn't be surprising to see the protest prevail and this runner granted a spot in the NCAA 10K final in Eugene in two weeks.

I'm out.

Someone hurt Hobbes. A psycho spends all his time trying to ruin my life.

What a mess.

you have to be kidding me wrote:

Grammer Hitler:

I apologize if my typing has offended you. I was sitting with our college coach of my son who ran the race and I was typing on my cell phone. Just for your information I am a doctor

A chiropractor?

They didn't use chips in the East race, however, I wonder how they would have delt with Letitia Saayman of Coastal Carolna if she chose to run barefoot (as she did in the NCAA XC champs).

Chips don't collect data. The chip sends it's code to the mats.

Do you even race, bro?

The athlete in question did not check in and just showed up to the line. This is not protocol of the meet.

MTRaceTimer wrote:

Chips don't collect data. The chip sends it's code to the mats.

Do you even race, bro?

You might want to read my post slower. I never said that the chips collected the data, but rather that the data was collected via the chips. I know how it works. Do you even comprehend written words, bro ?

NCAA Ruler wrote:

The athlete in question did not check in and just showed up to the line. This is not protocol of the meet.

I would think that someone as smart as you would know the difference between it's and its.

you have to be kidding me wrote:

Just for your information I am a doctor, so I am quite sure I can type a coherent sentence.

lol lol lol lol

some random old timer wrote:

When I saw the thread title I figured John Chaplin must have moved on to NCAA officiating.

Wrong. Chaplin would have pulled 30 guys off the track, telling them that they had no chance to qualify and shouldn't be there.

If the athlete did not check in it is his bad. If he had a hip number that is on the officials and he should advance as there is no rule in regards to the chip.

Anyone know someone with inside info?

The athlete most definitely checked in. He had bib and hip numbers. The pre-check officials that make sure everyone is good to go before they let you on the track just missed that he didn't have a shoe chip. It wasn't until the athletes lined up that he noticed he didn't have a shoe chip. So he, the athlete, ran over to a group of officials telling them he didn't have a shoe chip inquiring what to do.

Ok, so who was the runner? It's 2015, I'm sure that there are pictures of the guy on the infield or on the line. Does anyone have photographic proof? If what is being presented is accurate then the NCAA done goofed (that's right Grammar Hitler, let: that; marinate in your mouth for ∞).

Grammar Hitler wrote:

you must be kidding me wrote:

in west regional kid from new mexico goes to line forgets his chip on shoe, tells official who didn't even notice they dq him and pull him off line with police. no rules say you have to wear chip ncaa just screws kids over

Yes, I am going to do this. (It's a slow Friday.)

Yes, I'm going to do this (it's a slow Friday).

(Eliminate period after this, lowercase it's, period outside ( ).

I'm not going to waste my time on the rest of your drivel. You've failed.

Blch wrote:

The NCAA screwed this one over completely. I have been an official at some fairly big events, and you would never do something this stupid unless you are sn ignorant official. You never DQ an athlete unless there is a clear rules violation. And because there is no rule this should've never happened.

The chips are meant for counting laps for each athlete. There is no rule that you have to wear one.

How can you violate a rule when there isn't a rule? If this goes to a court of law the NCAA will get torched....

The NCAA is just fine. The rules give plenty of discretion.

Logic rules wrote:

I looked at the rule book and agree that the NCAA officials seem to have had no grounds to remove him from the race. They handed out chips as a matter of convenience. I think it would be a good rule to have, and the athlete messed up, but there does not appear to be any published requirement that chips be worn in a track race if requested by meet officials. They can't just make up new rules on the spot and expect to be able to legally enforce them. The race was videotaped, so they could have verified the number of laps run in that manner if there weren't enough people available to count laps live during the event.

It wouldn't be surprising to see the protest prevail and this runner granted a spot in the NCAA 10K final in Eugene in two weeks.

You need to read it again. The ref has plenty of discretion over things not explicitly provided for in the rules.

People get lapped at regionals? If they do they should be pulled from the race.