Both guys should have a couple of fast races before the end of the season. After that we can decide who is the best:)
There are very few guys that have run sub 1:48 in hs. It looks like DB should be able to do that but a lot of times you don't see the results you expect. Same thing with Fisher. We expect him to drop a 3:58 or so. But their is chance he doesn't run any faster than last year. Wouldn't be the end of the world.
How old is DB? Is he a junior? Is he racing GF any time this season? What other races does he have coming up?
That 1:48 looked effortless!! I mean, wow. I've never seen anything like that.
I have...but it was done by Rudisha.
Texas A & M has great 400m runners year after year. Their mid-distance and distance records aren't bad. 800m is best with two sub 1:47, then 1500m has 3:43 as the record, and 5000-10000 are back a ways with 13:45ish and 28:42, I think. He should have the 800/1500m records within a year or two.
CEO wrote:
Brian Chesky - not an engineer. School of DESIGN!
Why exactly, again, is it a requirement for me to be good at coding when that isn't going to be what I do everyday even if I knew how to code well?
I know what CEOs do. Great CEOs remove barriers so that the employees can manage themselves and innovate and run as fast as possible. I will be an amazing CEO because I know how to remove all the stuff that makes the business stink.
That's why my title is the GTD. I'm the fastest Garbage Truck Driver.
what
Well, in the state cross country meet, Fisher won in 14:52 and Brazier was 6th in 15:25, but I guess if you combine this with Brazier's speed, I would rather have Brazier's future as an athlete. Now, this is a subjective appraisal, of course, but with the premium placed on kicks and speed in championship races, Brazier has a tremendous upside. Now Fisher probably does too, and obviously Brazier's kick was rendered meaningless at the state cross country meet, but I would rather have Brazier's future as an athlete. Now does that make him a bigger talent than Fisher? Not necessarily...
whut wrote:
CEO wrote:Brian Chesky - not an engineer. School of DESIGN!
Why exactly, again, is it a requirement for me to be good at coding when that isn't going to be what I do everyday even if I knew how to code well?
I know what CEOs do. Great CEOs remove barriers so that the employees can manage themselves and innovate and run as fast as possible. I will be an amazing CEO because I know how to remove all the stuff that makes the business stink.
That's why my title is the GTD. I'm the fastest Garbage Truck Driver.
what
My thoughts exactly. Who is Brian Chesky and why can't the GTD become the CEO. He shouldn't have to be good at coding.
the Mollusk wrote:
Splits, negative laps, pacing blah blah blah
How many of you long distance geek virgins have ever run a 52 ever?
Me.
TrackCoach wrote:
I am officially on the DB bandwagon, but it is difficult to say he is more talented than Fisher because they run different events and I don't think either athlete has had their best performance yet. Running a sub-4 mile has a lot of mystic, but it is only equal to a 1:47 800m and it looks like DB could probably run 1:46 once he gets out in 52s. With his 400m speed, going out in 55s is just not smart. However, poor coaching indicates upside. The most surprising thing about DB is the fact that he has run 1:48 (3) times and still have his biggest meets remaining. He has run 1:48 more times than all of the athletes who's PR is 1:47. From memory, Granville is the only athletes that ran (3) 1:48s. Also, DB's mile time is quick for a 400/800 type. Although I don't him as a miler, it would be interesting to see how he would handle the Adidas Dream Mile.
Btw, I like his choice of schools, Texas A&M will be a good fit for him.
They are both very very talented.
To the other posters - be happy about two exceptional athletes rather than who is the more talented or headlines reading "it's official" on a subjective topic that doesn't prove anything.
You are correct, they run different events. I disagree with your "poor coaching indicates upside" Not knowing who his coach is or the training philosophy, I would say nothing negative but rather the coach has brought up an incredible talent and got him to run 1:48 without ruining him, and therefore does know what he is doing.
electron1661 wrote:
How old is DB? Is he a junior? Is he racing GF any time this season? What other races does he have coming up?
That 1:48 looked effortless!! I mean, wow. I've never seen anything like that.
Does anyone know if they are racing each other at 1600 at tomorrow's Michigan Div. I state meet?
jjjjj wrote:
Texas A & M has great 400m runners year after year. Their mid-distance and distance records aren't bad. 800m is best with two sub 1:47, then 1500m has 3:43 as the record, and 5000-10000 are back a ways with 13:45ish and 28:42, I think. He should have the 800/1500m records within a year or two.
I mentioned A&M as being a good fit for Donavan because they are not an LD/XC centric program. In have seen some 400/800 types ruined by being forced onto XC teams and expected to score. A 10K XC race is simply too much for a fast twitch athlete.
Oh? wrote:
Then again, we could both be wrong and he is better off with even or slightly negative splits even in the 800.
NOBODY is best off with negative splits in the 800.
What a stupid post.
We have a pretty good high school runner up here in Ontario. Robert Heppenstall, earlier this month I believe ran 1:47.91. Would love to see him get in a fast race. Mind you he is more of a 400/800 speed guy.
Incorrect. Grant is still way more talented.
average high school xc runner wrote:
the Mollusk wrote:Splits, negative laps, pacing blah blah blah
How many of you long distance geek virgins have ever run a 52 ever?
Me.
"Me" is not a number.
Glad I could help clear that up for you.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Oh? wrote:Then again, we could both be wrong and he is better off with even or slightly negative splits even in the 800.
NOBODY is best off with negative splits in the 800.
What a stupid post.
You have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
What a stupid post
Tell me that isn't rubberized asphalt....
random idea wrote:
Impressive talent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RvyMuHYKts
trackcoach, you have a point. however, I think that Brazier, who is already quite a good xc runner, will not be hurt by running xc. most of the season is 8k.
WowWowWow wrote:
random idea wrote:Impressive talent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RvyMuHYKtsHe is so smooth! That looked effortless!
He runsState Meet tomorrow he will probaly run 1:46+
Maton out of dream mile helps braziers case
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year