how do people run a 100 mpw

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

great example wrote:

Those guys COULD run 100 miles a week if they wanted to, and certainly would if they wanted to run a fast marathon.

Yeah, if they ran all 100miles at slow recovery pace.

And what's the point of doing that? Just so that you can tell other people that you have run 100mpw?

They could do workouts as well. The point of doing it would be to race better at longer distances.

great example wrote:

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

Yeah, if they ran all 100miles at slow recovery pace.

And what's the point of doing that? Just so that you can tell other people that you have run 100mpw?

Maybe to improve at longer distances, especially the marathon?

Bernie has more lifetime miles on his body than just about everyone he faces and has gotten up to 85 in his later years with no problem. He could do 100 mile weeks at a pretty good clip. The real question is what is YOUR point?

Lagat and Estrada may not be the best examples. But it is a total BS to suggest that a "very small percentage" of active runners cannot handle 100mpw.

You can't get fit by running but you have to be fit to run.

Most "runners" are not physically able to run 100mpw. Similarly most lifters will never bench 300, squat 400 or deadlift 500.

Alan

EVERY runner I knew who wanted to run 100 mile weeks was able to do it. In some cases they needed a couple years to get to that level and not all ran better for doing it. But if you're talking about fairly young runners who really commit to running 100 mile weeks I would say that it's a very small per cent who can't.

HRE wrote:

EVERY runner I knew who wanted to run 100 mile weeks was able to do it. In some cases they needed a couple years to get to that level and not all ran better for doing it. But if you're talking about fairly young runners who really commit to running 100 mile weeks I would say that it's a very small per cent who can't.

Henry Marsh being a famous example. And, following up on an earlier post of yours, Benji Durden found that he raced much better off 80-90/week than 100+.

HRE wrote:

EVERY runner I knew who wanted to run 100 mile weeks was able to do it. In some cases they needed a couple years to get to that level and not all ran better for doing it. But if you're talking about fairly young runners who really commit to running 100 mile weeks I would say that it's a very small per cent who can't.

And what percentage of runners in the world did you actually know? You and your buddies do not represent the world, in case you still haven't figured that out. A couple of years to get to 100mpw? Both Meb and Deena took much longer than that.

You are basically saying that any runner whose body breaks down before reaching 100mpw lacks commitment. If you want to keep despising less durable people, I have to say you are a very sad person.

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

You are basically saying that any runner whose body breaks down before reaching 100mpw lacks commitment. If you want to keep despising less durable people, I have to say you are a very sad person.

You don't understand running. If your body breaks down before reaching 100 miles a week, that doesn't mean you cannot reach 100 miles per week. Take some rest, run slower, do what you need, have patience. Mileage itself does not cause injuries.

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

You are basically saying that any runner whose body breaks down before reaching 100mpw lacks commitment.

He's not saying that at all, but it sounds like that's what you're realizing about yourself.

Crossthis Crossthat wrote:

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

You are basically saying that any runner whose body breaks down before reaching 100mpw lacks commitment. If you want to keep despising less durable people, I have to say you are a very sad person.

You don't understand running. If your body breaks down before reaching 100 miles a week, that doesn't mean you cannot reach 100 miles per week. Take some rest, run slower, do what you need, have patience. Mileage itself does not cause injuries.

You repeat this process over and over again, and still may not reach 100mpw. You eventually become too old to increase your mileage without increasing injury risk. And that means you lack commitment, according to HRE.

Once again, the old "Everyone I know" argument. Anybody can do it, just look at the 10 guys I know who did it.

They were already excellent runners with years of uninterrupted training, proving they had durability, talent, and commitment. Therefore Everyone could do it. Do you see the logic flaw there?

LR is full of people with incredibly low self esteem who have no understanding of statistics or science.

I wanted to say something earlier but all the guys were around. I haven't been kissed in almost two years and I haven't been with a guy in 5 years. I met you almost four years ago. What you don't know is that when I look back at all that time, I always have the same thought -

You're worth waiting for. I'd wait four years just to hold your hand.

That's how much you mean to me.

Finally a post that addresses the subject of the thread!

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

Crossthis Crossthat wrote:

You don't understand running. If your body breaks down before reaching 100 miles a week, that doesn't mean you cannot reach 100 miles per week. Take some rest, run slower, do what you need, have patience. Mileage itself does not cause injuries.

You repeat this process over and over again, and still may not reach 100mpw. You eventually become too old to increase your mileage without increasing injury risk. And that means you lack commitment, according to HRE.

Nah, any old person can do it as well. you're just lazy or impatient with your progress.

Have you ever done a Marathon?

I've seen people who run for 3-4 yet can't run more than 20 miles a week without developing debilitating shin splints and stress fractures. I've seen guys who can't run more than three days in a row without their knees killing them.

The experiences of the genetically gifted have no meaning for normal people.

Alan

runningart2004 wrote:

I've seen people who run for 3-4 yet can't run more than 20 miles a week without developing debilitating shin splints and stress fractures. I've seen guys who can't run more than three days in a row without their knees killing them.

The experiences of the genetically gifted have no meaning for normal people.

Alan

Those people are lazy and unhealthy. My knees hurt when I start running after a lay-off Then they stop hurting as things adjust

Your experience does not equal the experiences of those outside your exclusive world.

I see normal people run everyday. I've trained normal people.

Succes in distance running largely depends on genetics. You cannot change your genetics.

The reason why you can recover well and get up to 100 mi/week is genetics. The reason why successful runners look like elves is genetics. Most normal men can never hope to be 5'9" 140lbs or 5'6 120lbs or a similar structure, regardless of miles run.

Alan

Once again we have the reading comprehension issue staring us in the face.

Let's start with asking where I said anyone lacks commitment? That's you, not me. Yes, I believe that nearly any fairly young and healthy runner can run 100 mile weeks if they commit to doing it and approach it intelligently. That does not mean that someone who decides he'd rather not run 100 mile weeks lacks commitment. He may have plenty of it and is just aiming it in another direction and I'm much more inclined to despise people who claim I've said things I haven't said because doing so makes it easier for them to argue with me than people who are fragile. If you want to argue with me argue with what I actually said and not what you've decided to read into what I said.

I never said that anyone should run 100 mile weeks and I even noted that for some even if they do run that much they may find that they race better on less. Benji Durden is a good example because he had a stretch where he was running well beyond 100 and not racing as well as he did at 80-90. BUT he only learned that by running well over 100. And it's worth noting that he was able to run well over 100 a week but didn't because he raced better on less which does not prove that was one of that large group who couldn't hold up at 100 or more.

Also, I have no idea what percentage of the world's runners I know or knew. What per cent do you know? It's probably similar to mine. Certainly I believe there are some runners who will break down at hundred mile weeks. I just never knew any of them. Of course my sample size is small. The number of people who run 100 mile weeks is small but decades ago it was larger than now.

I believe you claimed that only a small percentage of runners are able to run 100 mile weeks without breaking down. Let's say I knew 20-25 people who ran 100 or more miles a week consistently and none who'd tried to run that much but broke down from it. Those numbers don't support the idea that only a small percentage of runners cannot handle hundred mile weeks. I should have known SOMEONE, actually I should have known several someones, who'd tried running 100 mile weeks and couldn't.

Again, it's too small a sample size to draw conclusions from but if you know 20 people who can do a thing and none who can't do that thing it's reasonable to conclude that the thing is a thing that most folks could do if they wanted to. I'd bet that if the government took 75% of the defense budget and used it to pay $2,000 a week to every adult American who ran at least 100 miles in that week regardless of pace, you'd have at least 2/3s of the population running 100 mile weeks. But tell me, how many people do you know who tried running 100 mile weeks and broke down? And I'm talking about people who spent years working on it and not someone who went 49, 66, 88, 100, and fell apart.

To Whit wrote:

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

You repeat this process over and over again, and still may not reach 100mpw. You eventually become too old to increase your mileage without increasing injury risk. And that means you lack commitment, according to HRE.

Nah, any old person can do it as well. you're just lazy or impatient with your progress.

Have you ever done a Marathon?

Yeah, seven of them. I have not run more than 70 miles a week, because I'm lazy as hell and lack commitment. And since I went from zero to 70 in only 9 years, I guess I am impatient. Keep doing this for another 5-6 years, then maybe I could reach 100mpw if I can afford to sleep 9 hours a day. But my day job probably won't allow me to do that.

HRE wrote:

Again, it's too small a sample size to draw conclusions from but if you know 20 people who can do a thing and none who can't do that thing it's reasonable to conclude that the thing is a thing that most folks could do if they wanted to.

If you take 20 sprinters from DI schools, do you reach a conclusion that most healthy young men could sprint 100m under 11 sec? I wouldn't.

$2000/wk is not a big enough incentive to quit your day job unless it's guaranteed for the rest of your life, so I don't think most people will devote their entire life to running 100mpw. And if you are talking about that kind of commitment, then yes most runners lack commitment. But we have to pay our bills in real life.

I personally know at least a few dozen people whose body broke down multiple times for running mileage much lower than 100. I know exactly three people who have successfully run 100mpw for any extended time. Two of them are former DI runners whose 5k PBs are under 15. So they didn't have to spend a lot of time on feet to reach 100miles. The third man got divorced because his wife could not stand his obsession with running. Yeah, he was very committed. Running was more important than his marriage.