Will Rupp finally take the white-guy 5k record from .Dieter Baumann at The Pre Clasic?

Moo Goo wrote:

Was Dieter clean? I recall reading he was on PED.

On 19 October 1999 Baumann tested positive for nandrolone and received a two-year suspension, thus missing the 2000 Summer Olympics. The exact circumstances of this episode remain unclear. Baumann was voluntary tested after the initial results by an independent institute. Extremely high levels of nandrolone continued to be found in the tests and the results of the tests fluctuated dramatically depending on which time of day Baumann was tested. After several weeks of voluntary tests, Baumann claimed that the results varied with the time of day because the nandrolone was in his toothpaste. The German Athletics Federation (DLV) reluctantly believed Baumann that someone had manipulated his toothpaste and allowed him to start at the German championships where Baumann qualified for the Olympic Games in Sydney. However, the IAAF did not agree with that verdict and imposed a ban. Baumann tried to sue the IAAF before a German court but was unsuccessful. Those defending Baumann have pointed to the fact that the levels of nandrolone found in his body were completely abnormal for any athlete wishing to enhance his performance. Baumann's opponents argued that he had no conclusive proof for his version of the story and could not name a suspect. After the ban, he came back in 2002, at the age of 37, and won another silver medal over 10000 m at the European Championships in Munich. Baumann participated in the 2003 World Championships in Athletics in Paris over 10000 m but did not finish the race. He retired in late 2003.

Hey stupid wrote:

What has he done recent to show he is close to this shape? Nothing!

He will be lucky to break 13:10.

Regardless, 13:20, 13:40, 14:54... Rupp will set the mark for fastest 2015 5k by a married white boy who went to U of Oregon but never graduated.

Bubbadeeboo wrote:

^ good points, i should have said non-african descent record

Some good runners will be in the mix:

Men’s 5000 Meters Personal Best

Isiah Kiplangat Koech (Kenya) 12:48.64

Yenew Alamirew (Ethiopia) 12:48.77

Edwin Cheruiyot Soi (Kenya) 12:51.34

Albert Rop (Bahrain) 12:51.96

Bernard Lagat (USA) 12:53.60

Galen Rupp (USA) 12:58.90

Lawi Lalang (Kenya) 13:00.95

Collis Birmingham (Australia) 13:09.57

... And it wasn't Farah was in shape to run 12:54 at this race a few years ago, so I think there's a chance (rupp has bettered farah's 10k... And I think rupp could match Farah's 'racing' pr with a time-trial attempt). But i haven't seen any news about pace setters for this race though

We're ALL of African descent.

Just thought you should know.

13:03. Rupp semi-certified. I just don't think Rupp will be logging those types of times this early. Probably no one will break 13 at pre. Alamirew wins it.

ryan foreman wrote:

Here is a bold prediction. Rupp will run somewhere between 12:58 and 13:10.

Seriously. In his last 12 DL 5000M races going back all the way to 2010 he has run every race between that band of time. Maybe nobody cares, but I find that fact interesting. Both for good and bad. On one hand he has never run faster than 12:58 and the likes of Ritzenheim still hold a better 5000M time. That is kind of surprising at this stage of Rupp's career. On the other hand we saw last year he took time off for training to see to the birth of his kids, yet still came back and ran faster than 13:10. I find that impressive.

don't really know, but maybe his training isn't geared for full out personal best, but for the ability to run for medals. Training for endurance to run an prelim and a final. And training for the ability to race at a very fast pace(13 flat) but kick sub 55 400 finish.

Hayduke wrote:

... maybe his training isn't geared for full out personal best, but for the ability to run for medals. ...

Rupp has one championship medal, a second place *. The training hasn't panned out to be a medal winner.

Worlds:

2007 10k 11th

2009 10k 8th

2011 10k 7th

2011 5k 9th

2013 10k 4th

2013 5k 8th

Olympics:

2008 10k 13th

2012 10k 2nd *

5k 7th

Out of Africa wrote:

Bubbadeeboo wrote:

^ good points, i should have said non-african descent record

Some good runners will be in the mix:

Men’s 5000 Meters Personal Best

Isiah Kiplangat Koech (Kenya) 12:48.64

Yenew Alamirew (Ethiopia) 12:48.77

Edwin Cheruiyot Soi (Kenya) 12:51.34

Albert Rop (Bahrain) 12:51.96

Bernard Lagat (USA) 12:53.60

Galen Rupp (USA) 12:58.90

Lawi Lalang (Kenya) 13:00.95

Collis Birmingham (Australia) 13:09.57

... And it wasn't Farah was in shape to run 12:54 at this race a few years ago, so I think there's a chance (rupp has bettered farah's 10k... And I think rupp could match Farah's 'racing' pr with a time-trial attempt). But i haven't seen any news about pace setters for this race though

We're ALL of African descent.

Just thought you should know.

In that line of thought we are all turds turned pond scum turned tadpole turned fish turned ... you get the jist of it.

Besides, I am MEXICAN BABY!

Dieter's OG'92 5Km post race celebration was awesome.

Many flips on the track.

His epic race with DDR's Hans Joerg Kuntze for Silver Medal at OG '88 behind Nguigi was classic.

Baumann can still be seen with TV commentary on certain German marathon races..

who is Will Rupp?

This has to be the most self-defeating post ever on Letsrun.

One metal wrote:

Hayduke wrote:

... maybe his training isn't geared for full out personal best, but for the ability to run for medals. ...

Rupp has one championship medal, a second place *. The training hasn't panned out to be a medal winner.

Worlds:

2007 10k 11th

2009 10k 8th

2011 10k 7th

2011 5k 9th

2013 10k 4th

2013 5k 8th

Olympics:

2008 10k 13th

2012 10k 2nd *

5k 7th

at least the same nic when responding, okay...

the poster claimed medals. medals = plural form of medals. Got it!

in reality rupp = 1 medal, 2nd place. Got it!

how is rupp trained to win medals when he only has one in eight years from running championship races?

I see. So you read that post and said 'this guy means the training is designed to win multiple medals or is a failure'. Come on. Medaling once is pretty damn hard unless you are the most talented. No one thinks Rupp is the most talented.

Hasn't panned out? An Olympic silver medal, I call that major success.

When you back it up with a 26:44, that's sort of decent too.

As for Rupp's 5000 time at Pre, I'm betting he's more interesting in winning the race than running for time.

He'll get the mark he needs for worlds in the process of running a competitive race.

Honestly, Rupp's Legacy is solid already. I'm not worried what he does. He could retire today as the best American 10k runner ever. I would love to see him continue to set PR's and maybe grab a medal, but if he is on the backside of his career, then whatever, he's had a great run.

Neither Rupp nor Mo will start this weekend...

thedefenfer wrote:

Honestly, Rupp's Legacy is solid already. I'm not worried what he does. He could retire today as the best American 10k runner ever.

Ever heard of a Olympic 10k Gold medalist named Billy Mills?

reader of the forums wrote:

Gerry Lindgren ran 12:36 en route to his 16:08 4 mile course record at Mt Sac.

Bullsh!t. Nobody's faster than Kenenisa over 5000.

Fortunately I know you were being sarcastic and just recreating his own story.

theMills wrote:

thedefenfer wrote:

Honestly, Rupp's Legacy is solid already. I'm not worried what he does. He could retire today as the best American 10k runner ever.

Ever heard of a Olympic 10k Gold medalist named Billy Mills?

Yes we've all heard of Billy Mills. Your not honestly going to try to compare Billy Mills to Galen Rupp. I love Mills, but Galen would lap Mills in a 10k and still run a faster last lap. Rupp silver in 2012 > Mills Gold in 1968.

Hayduke wrote:

... And training for the ability to race at a very fast pace(13 flat) but kick sub 55 400 finish.

A good plan .. but he's never actually done that, has he?