Some people would actually take Michael Jordan over Lebron James?

I agree with the O.P.

It would be close, but LeBron is probably a little better than MJ at this point. After all, Jordan is 52 years old and James is still in his prime.

WWRD wrote:

Answer man -it wasn't promotion that won him 6 titles in 8 yrs and and a 72 win season. If he hadn't left they may have won 8 titles in a row. Do you know how ridiculous that is? Obviously he was the best player on that team. Look at the new advanced stats they run, MJ, retroactively, comes out on top in almost all of them. Someone mentioned a list of players they'd take ahead of Lebron, Lebron is certainly in the list, and may continue to climb, but MJ is #1 right now.

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Promotion didn't win those titles but his tremendously gifted team did. Other posters have shown that the Bulls were a winning team without Jordan but teams collapsed after losing Lebron.

Promotion is seen in most of the post here about Jordan and how the referees protected their golden boy who brought so much money to the sport.

Jordan was a prolific scorer surrounded by great athletes who could rebound and score when needed. He wasn't terribly smart and could never make it as a coach. His teammates never like his SELFISH approach to the game.

Ok, I suppose I should answer the Jordan vs Lebron question. Jordan, the man was ice when the pressure to win was squarely on his shoulders. His force of will to win made him the best bet in crunch time. He would make the play, nail the shot and sink the free throw. Losing was not in his nature and a 6-0 finals winning record says it all. Of course, Lebron is still writing his legacy.

So, if the two were to face off at high noon at the OK corral who would be the quicker draw and the better shot? Man to man, staring each other down on the dusty street of Tombstone AZ.........Draw.......Bam......who's standing? The man with the steely ice in his veins, speed of a cobra and eyes of a hawk. Sorry King J but you just been smoked buy the fastest gun in the West....Or should I say Eastern Conference..

Both players in their prime I would take Jordan. He would of mentally broke Lebron down.

I dunno if they were CLEARLY better than the Showtime Lakers as that very team with the same lineup minus Mark Aguirre (plus Adrian Dantley, pretty much interchangeable players) lost the previous year in the Finals to the same Lakers team so they were only 1-1 against the Lakers.

WWRD wrote:

There is virtually ZERO argument that he's the greatest clutch shooter in NBA history. And in regards to shooting overall, he retired with a .497 shooting %, Lebron is at .496% right now, and for MJ it includes his comeback with the Wizards when he was well past his prime.

I consider Lebron to be more or as clutch as Jordan. Watch the playoffs for a change.

BenSi wrote:

WWRD wrote:

There is virtually ZERO argument that he's the greatest clutch shooter in NBA history. And in regards to shooting overall, he retired with a .497 shooting %, Lebron is at .496% right now, and for MJ it includes his comeback with the Wizards when he was well past his prime.

I consider Lebron to be more or as clutch as Jordan. Watch the playoffs for a change.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/11/8584749/lebron-james-michael-jordan-game-winning-shots

Dirk destroyed Lebron when it counted. He has lost more finals than he has won against teams that were worse than those Jordan beat. He couldn't hold Jordan's jock. It's hilarious that people think they know enough about basketball to post on this thread but actually know so little that they would advocate for Lebron

And another CLUTCH 3 by Lebron in OT, playing injured.

Dirk? 1 championship. Child please. LOL

Where is Dirk right now?

The King!

Just played his heart out!

CLUTCH 3

CLUTCH defensive block

CLUTCH 2

That's your last 3 plays in OT in the playoffs. Did Jordan EVER do this? Did Jordan ever play his heart out like that? Flu sickness? Please. Mind over matter with Lebron. Where was Jordan's defense? lol

Lebron - first player ever to have 37+ points triple double.

Again, Lebron - FIRST PLAYER EVER.

Les wrote:

I dunno if they were CLEARLY better than the Showtime Lakers as that very team with the same lineup minus Mark Aguirre (plus Adrian Dantley, pretty much interchangeable players) lost the previous year in the Finals to the same Lakers team so they were only 1-1 against the Lakers.

What a series that was came down to classic game 7 with Big Game James Worthy throwing down monster triple double 36 points 16 rebounds and 10 assists. I still think Detroit had the deeper bench.

kneedeep wrote:

Losing was not in his nature and a 6-0 finals winning record says it all. Of course, Lebron is still writing his legacy.

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Why do Jordan fans always pretend Jordan only played in the NBA for 6 seasons?

ooro wrote:

kneedeep wrote:

Losing was not in his nature and a 6-0 finals winning record says it all. Of course, Lebron is still writing his legacy.

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Why do Jordan fans always pretend Jordan only played in the NBA for 6 seasons?

It's not that we forget his other years. It's the significance of back to back three peats which can never be marginalized.

BenSi wrote:

The King!

Just played his heart out!

CLUTCH 3

CLUTCH defensive block

CLUTCH 2

That's your last 3 plays in OT in the playoffs. Did Jordan EVER do this? Did Jordan ever play his heart out like that? Flu sickness? Please. Mind over matter with Lebron. Where was Jordan's defense? lol

Lebron - first player ever to have 37+ points triple double.

Again, Lebron - FIRST PLAYER EVER.

Great game...Looks like King J is going to another finals. He was special tonight. I am actually rooting for the Cleveland fans. They deserve a title after James jilted them.

Would have loved to see what the Pistons would of done to Lebron in late 80s

badboys wrote:

Would have loved to see what the Pistons would of done to Lebron in late 80s

Laimbeer, Mahorn, Salley and Rodman would have roughed him up. James would not have gotten to the basket as easily as he does now. Also, the Pistons were deep. The Heat had their 3 Wade, Bosch and Lebron with a weak bench. Buddha, Vinnie, Rodman and Salley would have torn up Miami's bench. And Detroit's starters would have out scored the Heat and their interior defense would have dominated the paint. Only way Miami could win is by out shooting Detroit. With Dumars, Thomas, Aguirre, Vinnie, Dantley, Edwards and Laimbeer, don't think that would have happened. Detroit in 5 over the Heat. I give one game to Lebron and Wade.

BenSi wrote:

WWRD wrote:

There is virtually ZERO argument that he's the greatest clutch shooter in NBA history. And in regards to shooting overall, he retired with a .497 shooting %, Lebron is at .496% right now, and for MJ it includes his comeback with the Wizards when he was well past his prime.

I consider Lebron to be more or as clutch as Jordan. Watch the playoffs for a change.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/11/8584749/lebron-james-michael-jordan-game-winning-shots

Great post! Everyone buys into the myth. How many times did Mr. Clutch, Jordan not even make it to the finals? That fact is ignored.

BenSi wrote:

The King!

Just played his heart out!

CLUTCH 3

CLUTCH defensive block

CLUTCH 2

That's your last 3 plays in OT in the playoffs. Did Jordan EVER do this? Did Jordan ever play his heart out like that? Flu sickness? Please. Mind over matter with Lebron. Where was Jordan's defense? lol

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Lebron - first player ever to have 37+ points triple double.

Again, Lebron - FIRST PLAYER EVER.

Again you post trumps all those by guys with faded memories. Jordan of course was great but the myth of Jordan is even greater.

The answer man 3 wrote:

Again you post trumps all those by guys with faded memories. Jordan of course was great but the myth of Jordan is even greater.

Yeah, people only remember the good about Jordan & they're obviously not even paying attention to what's going on right now, which makes me doubt they were paying attention when Jordan was playing.

Look at what Lebron is doing right now. His best player is at 50% & his next best teammate is out for the playoffs. Lebron is in the extreme 1% of players who can get as far into the playoffs with what he has to work with. Imagine Jordan with Pippen at 50% & his next best teammate out. Oh, & substitute Phil Jackson for Blatt.

Jordan without Pippen alone (5 seasons) had a sub .400 record, 0 championships, 0 playoff series wins, 0 MVPs, 0 All-NBA Defense and just 1-9 post season record.

I was born in the 70's & raised 2 1/2 hours from Chicago, so I grew up watching Jordan's every game. That was back when all the playoff games were on nbc or cbs & most people tuned in & talked about it. Jordan had excellent teammates & of course Phil . . . one of the top 3 NBA coaches of all time. Considering what they had to work with, a better comparison Jordan vs Kobe, though Kobe had a couple bad teams that he led (Morrison, Luke Walton). I wouldn't hesitate to throw Bird & Magic into the conversation of greatest of all time. Bird is probably the most complete package with clutch shots, passing, outside shooting, post up, defense. Magic could score at will, played good defense & his passing skills of course.

1. jordan

2. chamberlain

3. james

4. magic

5. bird

6. kobe, i guess.