TOM TERRIBLE IS SUSPENDED!

Flagpole wrote:

Brady (allegedly) cheated in THE biggest NFL game and reportedly others.

The first half of the Indianapolis game was "THE biggest game"? Because they know the balls were properly inflated during the second half. And since deflategate happened before the super bowl, you better believe they were inflated properly for the super bowl. That's why Brady was so bad in the 2nd half of the Indy game and the super bowl.

4 game suspension...expected to be appealed down to 2

No proof, he will get off!

Polly P wrote:

Brady has not been suspended. I can't honestly see it happening given the inconclusiveness of the report.

Ooooo, guess what just happened Polly? 4 games for your boy. Guess that report wasn't as inconclusive as you thought. Having said that, I think what did Tom in was the lying afterwards. The original transgression was pretty minor, but the league does not smile upon liars.

Apparently deflating game balls (more likely than not or actually) is twice as bad as getting caught beating your wife in an elevator.

No Balls at all wrote:

Polly P wrote:

Brady has not been suspended. I can't honestly see it happening given the inconclusiveness of the report.

Ooooo, guess what just happened Polly? 4 games for your boy. Guess that report wasn't as inconclusive as you thought. Having said that, I think what did Tom in was the lying afterwards. The original transgression was pretty minor, but the league does not smile upon liars.

Then the league shouldn't smile on Roger Goodell, who lied through his teeth during the early days of the concussion crisis and deliberately put a doctor in charge who was not a brain guy.

If letting some air out of your own footballs is cheating, where is the investigation into THIS:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579310500005285822

It is well known that Seattle has used a blatant tactic to cheat by committing pass interference on almost every play, because they know the refs don't want to call it. This issue has been all over the sports media for the last 2-3 years: It is not an opinion or a secret. Pete Carroll is the epitome of a cheater. He caused a large penalty against USC because HE refused to follow any NCAA rules, and when the hammer came down against HIS program, HE bolted to the NFL. Pete Carroll's cheating cheated the San Francisco 49ers out of a Super Bowl.

If the NFL cannot show that they instructed officials to call every pass interference committed by Seattle, all that talk about integrity of the game is just a pile of crap, as is anti-doping when the NFL won't have any connection with USADA or the World Anti Doping Code.

They're nothing BUT a bunch of steroid cheaters and the NFL is now permanently banned from our home.

themanontherun wrote:

Apparently deflating game balls (more likely than not or actually) is twice as bad as getting caught beating your wife in an elevator.

What Ray Rice did was criminal and disgusting.

What Brady and the Patriots did has the potential to impact the betting lines. Sad but true.

Hypocrites all.

Freedom Trail wrote:

No Balls at all wrote:

Ooooo, guess what just happened Polly? 4 games for your boy. Guess that report wasn't as inconclusive as you thought. Having said that, I think what did Tom in was the lying afterwards. The original transgression was pretty minor, but the league does not smile upon liars.

Then the league shouldn't smile on Roger Goodell, who lied through his teeth during the early days of the concussion crisis and deliberately put a doctor in charge who was not a brain guy.

Sorry son. Roger gets to do the smiling, or not smiling as it turns out. Or is this another "look what someone else did!" type of distraction? Personally I think if Tom would have only told the truth, this would have all blown over by now. Let that be a lesson to you kids. The cover up was far worse than the crime.

themanontherun wrote:

Apparently deflating game balls (more likely than not or actually) is twice as bad as getting caught beating your wife in an elevator.

nobody thinks that, what you morons don't get is that domestic violence is a criminal matter and has nothing to do with the integrity of the game from an on-field standpoint.

With hundreds of NFL players using HGH under the watch and care of the NFL, I have a really hard time with any attention being paid to slightly deflated footballs.

Once the NFL has addressed their real problems, they can start paying attention to this kind of stuff.

Now that Brady has been suspended, maybe we can put Deflategate behind us and move on to getting excited about the upcoming season. A good place to start would be celebrating the overall #1 pick in the recent draft Jameis Winston who has only been accused of two rapes.

Hgh wrote:

With hundreds of NFL players using HGH under the watch and care of the NFL, I have a really hard time with any attention being paid to slightly deflated footballs.

Once the NFL has addressed their real problems, they can start paying attention to this kind of stuff.

So everybody is cheating so trying to get a competitive advantage by cheating is OK? That sounds like Lance's argument.

There is little doubt Brady knew what was going on. Having said that: Why does the NFL check the balls and then give them back to the respective teams?

If they really cared about this, shouldn't some ref on the sideline hold the footballs to preserve the "integrity of the game"?

The fact is: the NFL didn't care. They want the qb's to have every advantage because offense sells in the NFL. They want the qb's to have huge games. Brady and Manning and Rogers sell tickets. Now the NFL changes its mind because there's a witch hunt out for New England. Well, they got em good. They ruined New England's next season and hurt them for future seasons with the draft choice penalty. Seems excessive.

bladerunner wrote:

The fact is: the NFL didn't care. They want the qb's to have every advantage because offense sells in the NFL. They want the qb's to have huge games. Brady and Manning and Rogers sell tickets. Now the NFL changes its mind because there's a witch hunt out for New England. Well, they got em good. They ruined New England's next season and hurt them for future seasons with the draft choice penalty. Seems excessive.

Nothing got ruined, the Patriots will split the first 4 games then roll the rest of the year. After all the cheaters are always ahead of the authorities. Think back to the Superbowl interception - they knew that play was coming. How was was that?

Did I just open a can of worms?

Well, that's not really like Lance Armstrong. I'm saying that the league needs to prioritize rule enforcement. Deal with the major issues first.

To use your cycling analogy, what they are doing now in the NFL is the equivalent of cracking down on illegal water bottles while more than half the peloton is using EPO.

themanontherun wrote:

Apparently deflating game balls (more likely than not or actually) is twice as bad as getting caught beating your wife in an elevator.

Apparently you do not understand the difference between actions that should be under the NFL's purview to provide punishment for and actions that should be under the purview of the American justice system to provide justice for.

This ^

Well said