Face the fax wrote:
Actually it is far from obvious that Brady or the Pats cheated. You are obviously biased and far from indifferent.
I have a beautiful bridge you can have at a great price. The guy who deflated the balls - the name he was called was DEFLATOR because he was trying to lose weight? You seriously believe that?
xlkccv;lkzx wrote:
Sally V wrote:The V is for: Vhat a dumb@ss
And you sound like the rabid and unsophisticated Cubs' fans who wanted to string Steve Bartmann up after he interfered with that ball.
Sally V wrote:
Face the fax wrote:Actually it is far from obvious that Brady or the Pats cheated. You are obviously biased and far from indifferent.
I have a beautiful bridge you can have at a great price. The guy who deflated the balls - the name he was called was DEFLATOR because he was trying to lose weight? You seriously believe that?
So some ball boy's nickname is your proof? Puhleeeeze.
Sally V wrote:
Polly P and other Pats fan it is in "fewer" than 30 minutes. Did you guys miss out on a few English classes? Less refers to amount and fewer to quantity. Last year there were 20 fewer days of rain and overall it rained less last year. Got it???
The phrase "30 minutes" constitutes both an amount of time, as well as a quantity of minutes; "fewer" and "less" are both grammatically correct ways to express that thought.
A good day for TB12...
“I have a little trouble with (Goodell deciding on four games),” Berman said, according to CSNNE.com’s Tom E. Curran. Goodell compared deflating footballs to steroid use in his letter upholding Brady’s four-game suspension. “How are deflating footballs and not cooperating with the commissioner legally comparable to steroid use and a masking agent?” Berman asked NFL Management Council attorney Daniel Nash, according to Curran.
Read more at:
http://nesn.com/2015/08/judge-i-have-a-little-trouble-with-tom-bradys-four-game-suspension/
The NFL is looking worse and worse here....
Suspended my... wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/deflate-gate-judge-hammers-nfl-s-case-against-tom-brady---your-honor-is-spot-on---defense-crows--192153861.htmlThe NFL is looking worse and worse here....
Yes, but see
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2620705/major-league-baseball-players-assn-v-garvey/.
Even if the judge thinks Goodell reasoning was "irrational", it appears his only recourse (at least that would stand up on appeal) is to vacate the decision and remand it for another round of arbitration.
Agreed--he can't force anyone's hand but the case is definitely swinging in favor of Brady--he'll still get suspension (and maybe even for 4 games) but the history books are more likely to pin this fiasco on Goodell and their shoddy research and frequent assumptions.
As a corollary, see:
When people bring up the "Patriots are cheaters" thing--I often think of things like this. Are we creating an environment where the Pats are answerable to no one? Almost definitely. But it's the fault of the NFL (and media) more than the Pats. You can't pull horse crap like the above (or what Goodell has done with deflategate) and expect a level playing field.
Given what the judge has been saying in court, it would behoove the NFL to settle this thing pronto.
The NFL has got to read the writing on the wall.
PolIy P wrote:
Given what the judge has been saying in court, it would behoove the NFL to settle this thing pronto.
The "Free Tom Brady" movement is taking off in New England! We're having a bake sale and a bikini car wash outside the stadium in Foxboro Saturday to raise money for his defense fund. Gisele will be there in a Victoria's Secret thong, along with other local celebs, so come on down.
Let's do what's necessary people to squash that punk Goodie Goodell.
I'm there!
Another great article by Sally Jenkins on what this case is really about: Roger Goodell's insufferable egomania
This is looking worse and worse for the NFL and Goodell, and it's even begun to undermine the wins they had from the last lock out. If I were Goodell I'd call Brady's attorney and offer a one game suspension for failure to comply with an investigation, as Brady has acknowledged he'll agree to.
On a more abstract note, it's funny how the naysayers and "Brady's a cheater" crowd have all but disappeared. The entire Pats/Belichick/Brady cheats concept is easy to understand, just like anti-vax culture is easy to understand. The premise is that "common sense" is sufficient to evaluate and judge a person or event and that scientific inquiry is for "scientists". Businesses (especially sports teams) have existed on the notion that "we have our way of doing it". That's like a pilot saying to passengers: "I have my own way of flying and so we won't be following FAA recommendations on today's flight". (as a corollary this is in line with what the Moneyball book uncovered).
The Pats organization seems to have figured out what few other teams have: that understanding human behavior, taking a strict scientific approach to the game, and knowing the rules better than your opponent will give you the edge needed to win.
I was able to attend a Pats preseason game about 10 years ago (I'm not a fan, but my girlfriend at the time was). We were given tickets from a family friend who had season tickets. We were told explicitly: "Do not cause trouble at the stadium or any where on the property, including the parking lot. The Pats have a zero tolerance policy for disruptive behavior. If they catch you breaking the rules, your season tickets are taken away on the spot. Period."
That exemplifies the Pats organization. Top to bottom they don't f*** around. Belichick has minimal loyalty to keeping players (Welker, Wilfork, etc) because winning comes first. The Pats perennially take players thought to be flawed and maximize their potential because Belichick understands what motivates people. Their system is tuned to near perfection and the expectations are inherent in the culture.
I guess you could accuse me of being a Pats admirer or even a kiss ass. Your g*ddamn right. I admire the Pats the way I admire Google and other businesses who have zeroed in on the science of maximizing human potential.
That article in the Wash Post is outstanding. It seems that all the "evidence" in the Wells report would not have held up in court---the judge actually says there is basically no evidence that balls were even deflated! It's incredible. More and more this whole things is looking like a wild goose chase.
The Tom Cheated crowd have all but disappeared because the issue is settled.
Suspended wrote:
This is looking worse and worse for the NFL and Goodell, and it's even begun to undermine the wins they had from the last lock out. If I were Goodell I'd call Brady's attorney and offer a one game suspension for failure to comply with an investigation, as Brady has acknowledged he'll agree to.
On a more abstract note, it's funny how the naysayers and "Brady's a cheater" crowd have all but disappeared. The entire Pats/Belichick/Brady cheats concept is easy to understand, just like anti-vax culture is easy to understand. The premise is that "common sense" is sufficient to evaluate and judge a person or event and that scientific inquiry is for "scientists". Businesses (especially sports teams) have existed on the notion that "we have our way of doing it". That's like a pilot saying to passengers: "I have my own way of flying and so we won't be following FAA recommendations on today's flight". (as a corollary this is in line with what the Moneyball book uncovered).
The Pats organization seems to have figured out what few other teams have: that understanding human behavior, taking a strict scientific approach to the game, and knowing the rules better than your opponent will give you the edge needed to win.
I was able to attend a Pats preseason game about 10 years ago (I'm not a fan, but my girlfriend at the time was). We were given tickets from a family friend who had season tickets. We were told explicitly: "Do not cause trouble at the stadium or any where on the property, including the parking lot. The Pats have a zero tolerance policy for disruptive behavior. If they catch you breaking the rules, your season tickets are taken away on the spot. Period."
That exemplifies the Pats organization. Top to bottom they don't f*** around. Belichick has minimal loyalty to keeping players (Welker, Wilfork, etc) because winning comes first. The Pats perennially take players thought to be flawed and maximize their potential because Belichick understands what motivates people. Their system is tuned to near perfection and the expectations are inherent in the culture.
I guess you could accuse me of being a Pats admirer or even a kiss ass. Your g*ddamn right. I admire the Pats the way I admire Google and other businesses who have zeroed in on the science of maximizing human potential.
Bill Belichek for POTUS.
He knows all about spying, keeping secrets, being ruthless, not taking any shit from reporters....
Liars!
Go away.
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