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Put on the shorts and go to the track right now, I'm gonna say 4:22 - 23.
Train for 2 weeks, run a series of 4 - 5 mile races over the following month, I'm gonna say 4:00.7, more or less!
I'm a big fan or the guy, but I do wonder if he still has the file in his belly to kick it big time again.
Ryan Hollow wrote:
Probably around 4:30 if he went to the track today after reading this. I doubt he could go much faster. Doesn't seem like he incorporates any running faster than marathon pace so 4:30 would feel pretty hard. Even Farrah was doing sets of 30 secon 200s after runs.
This is the correct answer, and an apt note about Farah.
Years ago there was a Flotrack video (I think) of Hall doing a short tempo at marathon pace before Boston, "to feel the snap in the legs."
A guy who runs marathon pace to "feel the snap" does not have sub-four speed.
Trialswatcher wrote:
Hall ran 3:42 .x in HS 1:51 and sub 9
He certainly did not do years of mile training at Stanford, abandoned that quickly and left with 13:16 for 5K
Never ran a meaningful mile 3K or 10K , never ran sub 7:50 for 3K or sub 28 for 10K
I said he left the underside way to early ,many disagreed with me.
Ryan Hall could run amazing threshold stuff from HS through college, almost anyone that followed him knew this, so when he went to marathon completely skipped over the 10K everyone thought that was in the cards.
Completely ignored every underside distance for over ten years
He did not "ignore it". He has said himself that really fast intervals makes him injured, so he doesn´t have a choice but to rely on long tempos and MP runs.
He did not "ignore it". He has said himself that really fast intervals makes him injured, so he doesn´t have a choice but to rely on long tempos and MP runs.
Hasn't he been injured a lot in recent years too without doing fast intervals?
Honestly, it may not be a bad idea for him to drop down and train for some faster races. A 5k, perhaps even a 1500m, could help to break the funk that he has been in (assuming he isn't a complete head-case at this point). Or is time for him to hang it up?
Thoughts?
he is not fast wrote:
Ryan Hollow wrote:Probably around 4:30 if he went to the track today after reading this. I doubt he could go much faster. Doesn't seem like he incorporates any running faster than marathon pace so 4:30 would feel pretty hard. Even Farrah was doing sets of 30 secon 200s after runs.
This is the correct answer, and an apt note about Farah.
Years ago there was a Flotrack video (I think) of Hall doing a short tempo at marathon pace before Boston, "to feel the snap in the legs."
A guy who runs marathon pace to "feel the snap" does not have sub-four speed.
C'mon, try to keep in mind that he has averaged 4:34 for a half marathon in the past. Even though he is not in the same shape I have a hard time believing that a 4:30 is all he's got if he ran one today.
Too funny...Only in a context like this can the subject be discussed. I wonder if it was "god's will" that he drop out of the many marathons he quit at, including the LA Marathon this year?
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I remember seeing him when he ran a 1500m in college perhaps his sophmore or junior year. I kept thinking: What's this 10k/marathoner doing in the 1500? He looked so smooth. But honestly not likely to challenge in a sit and kick or even a non-even paced 1500. His stride was so long and lacked that snap to wind it up. Still had the wheels though. So, I Don't doubt he could've run sub-4 at one point when he was super strong. He found his better event folks.
The guy has a 13:16 5000m PB, I have a feeling someone could have done much better than 4:00 with that kind of fitness.
AtheistRunner wrote:
Too funny...Only in a context like this can the subject be discussed. I wonder if it was "god's will" that he drop out of the many marathons he quit at, including the LA Marathon this year?
If you are assuming God doesn't exist, then your question is pointless. If you are assuming God does exist then why would it be unreasonable to think that God would allow certain challenges in Ryan's life to help him to grow?
otter wrote:
C'mon, try to keep in mind that he has averaged 4:34 for a half marathon in the past. Even though he is not in the same shape I have a hard time believing that a 4:30 is all he's got if he ran one today.
He could only manage 4:17 four years ago when he could still run a sub 2:10 marathon. He's be lucky to break 4:30 now.
http://usatf-1mile-championships.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=2513&year=2011&do=infootter wrote:
he is not fast wrote:This is the correct answer, and an apt note about Farah.
Years ago there was a Flotrack video (I think) of Hall doing a short tempo at marathon pace before Boston, "to feel the snap in the legs."
A guy who runs marathon pace to "feel the snap" does not have sub-four speed.
C'mon, try to keep in mind that he has averaged 4:34 for a half marathon in the past. Even though he is not in the same shape I have a hard time believing that a 4:30 is all he's got if he ran one today.
If that was true, does that mean Hall now posts here as the 4:30 miler? C'mon. Give him some credit. Even if he's completely out of it I'd give him something like 4:20 or under.
I'd say the real question is, who would win in a 1 mile race TODAY: Ryan Hall, or Alan Webb?
Chaim wrote:
I'd say the real question is, who would win in a 1 mile race TODAY: Ryan Hall, or Alan Webb?
Mike Rossi
Chaim wrote:
I'd say the real question is, who would win in a 1 mile race TODAY: Ryan Hall, or Alan Webb?
Mike Rossi
Neutral Observertard wrote:
RancidCupNoodle wrote:He's America's best hope in the marathon! Go Ryan he could def run 3:55 if he stopped believing in God crap.
Who was the last atheist who broke a WR or won a medal in anything above 400m?
Probably Coe.
faster racing wrote:
Honestly, it may not be a bad idea for him to drop down and train for some faster races. A 5k, perhaps even a 1500m, could help to break the funk that he has been in (assuming he isn't a complete head-case at this point). Or is time for him to hang it up?
Thoughts?
This would draw such a huge crowd. Great idea! I'm sure he'd have a lot of fun with it too.
Funny that Ritz, who had the slowest mile time of the 3 coming out of high school, would dust them both at any distance from the mile to the marathon.