Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

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8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:32pm EDT

re: New to thread

New to thread wrote:
Has anyone considered that maybe Mike Rossi crossed the starting line, then casually stepped off course shortly afterwards, then returned to his car, drove towards the finish area, got out of his car, snuck back onto the course when no one was looking and ran across the finish line?
Wouldn't this completely explain why Mike's chip registered at the start and finish AND explain why he is not in any of the pictures AND explain how he finished in a time that is much faster than he is capable of, AND explain why no one has vouched for him being on the course, AND why he has no cell phone or GPS data to prove he traveled the race course on foot
It's like I was trying to figure out how Mike ran this race in 3:11 without even a shred of proof that he did so and BLAM!, the solution hit me like a ton of bricks. So, anyway, that's my theory guys. I'm not sure if he deserves a DQ or not though. I mean, did the race explicitly forbid driving most of the route? If they didn't put that in the fine print, then Mike rightfully skates. No big deal though, they can add something about having to cover the actual race course on foot into next year's waiver.

Wow. I hadn't thought of that option. That could be it. Maybe I'll bring this up next time I meet with President Nixon.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:33pm EDT

re: comeon

8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:39pm EDT

re: vader

Sorry, been out of town for the past week and haven't checked on this.

Where's this thing at now?

8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:43pm EDT

abingtonrunner wrote:
fini fini fini wrote:
it is over
there will be no DQ
no one is looking through their digital photos from the race to see if they have an incriminating photo
no one has come forth to say they saw anything untoward
amazing the effort to get this guy who is a hobby jogger vs. Jeptoo or Shobukhova, i think it must have something to do with most LRCers identifying more as amateurs and perceiving that it is worse to violate the rules as an amateur for 'glory' than as a pro for money
the article should be about why this took off with such zeal but people just aren't interested in Jeptoo etc.
maybe people are more interested in Jeptoo than I think and sense
OVER? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
And it ain't over now. Cause when the goin' gets tough... the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! What the f*** happened to the letsrun I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? Ooh, we're afraid to go with you, we might get in sued. Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Rossi, he's a dead man! LVM and its race director and committee, dead!

Dead! abingtonrunner's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these hobby joggers. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons. That could take years and cost millions of lives. Oh no. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:45pm EDT

re: fini fini fini

10000 marbles please

8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:54pm EDT

re: fini fini fini

Wake up when we all do races we never notice a runner who jump out of the race after the first 1-3 miles of a marathon , either way Rossi a joke if i was that loser i would say guys meet me anywhere for a run and i show you i can hold a 3:11 marathon pace for 12-15 miles , he won't because he can't he nothing but a 2 bit salesman .Rossi i and everyone on letrun can't wait to see your sorry ass time on your next marathon what a joke that will be lets me guess my hip, my ass,my leg , i could not cut this course , you might of won this round but you will always be a D- Plus class runner !!!!!

8 years ago 06/02/2015 12:55pm EDT

re: Interested Partier

The conclusion is that Rossi drank unicorn blood, turned into Darth Vader, and ran a 3:11 legitimately, but while invisible.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:00pm EDT

re: Linux

Linux wrote:
Gun wrote:
That would be the smoking gun, indeed.
Someone on here has to be a Linux user... just use wget and a glob pattern to download all of the photos (Google it).

It would be great if someone could do that.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:03pm EDT

re: fini fini fini

fini fini fini wrote:
abingtonrunner wrote:
OVER? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
And it ain't over now. Cause when the goin' gets tough... the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! What the f*** happened to the letsrun I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? Ooh, we're afraid to go with you, we might get in sued. Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Rossi, he's a dead man! LVM and its race director and committee, dead!
Dead! abingtonrunner's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these hobby joggers. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons. That could take years and cost millions of lives. Oh no. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

does this thread now count as "a really futile and stupid gesture" or do we have to do something else?

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:05pm EDT

re: Blutarski

as of now all hobby joggers are on double secret probation

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:07pm EDT

re: Unicorn Vader

Unicorn Vader wrote:
The conclusion is that Rossi drank unicorn blood, turned into Darth Vader, and ran a 3:11 legitimately, but while invisible.

I think this ^ is it guys.

Case closed. Mystery solved.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:07pm EDT

re: OK I CHEATED

OK I CHEATED wrote:
Wake up when we all do races we never notice a runner who jump out of the race after the first 1-3 miles of a marathon , either way Rossi a joke if i was that loser i would say guys meet me anywhere for a run and i show you i can hold a 3:11 marathon pace for 12-15 miles , he won't because he can't he nothing but a 2 bit salesman .Rossi i and everyone on letrun can't wait to see your sorry ass time on your next marathon what a joke that will be lets me guess my hip, my ass,my leg , i could not cut this course , you might of won this round but you will always be a D- Plus class runner !!!!!

There is a 5k tonight in the town next to Mikes. Maybe you, Loser mike rossi, abingtonrunner and hvrunner67 can hobby jog it with mike to see if he can hold marathon pace for all three miles. If nothing else it would make for some interesting pics.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:16pm EDT

re: abingtonrunner

Give it up dude. Everyone else has moved on.

abingtonrunner wrote:
I know early on in this thread that the Board identified either the 10 or 20 runners that finished both before and after Rossi and then went back went back and pulled all of their respective photos to see if Rossi was in any of their photos.
Does anyone know whether there was an attempt to contact any of those runners are believed to have been in some sort of close proximity to Rossi on the course based on finish times? The point of contacting any of the runners would be to see if they remember him running side-by-side for a bit, that they passed him or that he passed them. For example, did the guy who finished right before Rossi, bib# 1823, does he recall passing him (and if so, how far back)? It may seem intrusive, but the race committee certainly didn't acknowledge that they asked for anything to be prove he ran the race but instead only said that there were no reports of any wrong doing? They would have known about reports of wrong doing the same day or by the next day, so they obviously did not try to prove or confirm he was on the course.
I see nothing wrong contacting any race participant to get their recollection of whether they even saw or can remember seeing Rossi on the course. I am sure many of the trolls and those imbibing on the koolaid will think this is too intrusive, but sometimes the truth hurts.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:20pm EDT

re: Linux

You people really need to stop this. The RD narrowed the guilt test so that only by a miracle he could be caught leaving the course. Looking at any other evidence is not part of their "investigation". They already knew they were not going to hand out the DQso had to make their test fit that decision.

Linux wrote:
Gun wrote:
That would be the smoking gun, indeed.
Someone on here has to be a Linux user... just use wget and a glob pattern to download all of the photos (Google it).

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:25pm EDT

re: abingtonrunner

The RD said they did not hear from anyone... Of course what they're not saying directly is that they never reached out to anyone, but simply no one came forward with information. Do you get it now? They never wanted to DQ him in the first place. The hard work put in by posters was nothing but donated time in the end, it's worthless.

abingtonrunner wrote:
I know early on in this thread that the Board identified either the 10 or 20 runners that finished both before and after Rossi and then went back went back and pulled all of their respective photos to see if Rossi was in any of their photos.
Does anyone know whether there was an attempt to contact any of those runners are believed to have been in some sort of close proximity to Rossi on the course based on finish times? The point of contacting any of the runners would be to see if they remember him running side-by-side for a bit, that they passed him or that he passed them. For example, did the guy who finished right before Rossi, bib# 1823, does he recall passing him (and if so, how far back)? It may seem intrusive, but the race committee certainly didn't acknowledge that they asked for anything to be prove he ran the race but instead only said that there were no reports of any wrong doing? They would have known about reports of wrong doing the same day or by the next day, so they obviously did not try to prove or confirm he was on the course.
I see nothing wrong contacting any race participant to get their recollection of whether they even saw or can remember seeing Rossi on the course. I am sure many of the trolls and those imbibing on the koolaid will think this is too intrusive, but sometimes the truth hurts.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:27pm EDT

re: Blutarski

Blutarski wrote:
fini fini fini wrote:
Dead! abingtonrunner's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these hobby joggers. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons. That could take years and cost millions of lives. Oh no. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
does this thread now count as "a really futile and stupid gesture" or do we have to do something else?

i think it counts

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:30pm EDT

re: MRtruther

MRtruther wrote:
The RD said they did not hear from anyone... Of course what they're not saying directly is that they never reached out to anyone, but simply no one came forward with information. Do you get it now? They never wanted to DQ him in the first place. The hard work put in by posters was nothing but donated time in the end, it's worthless.
abingtonrunner wrote:
I know early on in this thread that the Board identified either the 10 or 20 runners that finished both before and after Rossi and then went back went back and pulled all of their respective photos to see if Rossi was in any of their photos.
Does anyone know whether there was an attempt to contact any of those runners are believed to have been in some sort of close proximity to Rossi on the course based on finish times? The point of contacting any of the runners would be to see if they remember him running side-by-side for a bit, that they passed him or that he passed them. For example, did the guy who finished right before Rossi, bib# 1823, does he recall passing him (and if so, how far back)? It may seem intrusive, but the race committee certainly didn't acknowledge that they asked for anything to be prove he ran the race but instead only said that there were no reports of any wrong doing? They would have known about reports of wrong doing the same day or by the next day, so they obviously did not try to prove or confirm he was on the course.
I see nothing wrong contacting any race participant to get their recollection of whether they even saw or can remember seeing Rossi on the course. I am sure many of the trolls and those imbibing on the koolaid will think this is too intrusive, but sometimes the truth hurts.

Yes, I understood exactly what the RD said or didn't say in their nonsensical statement. I wrote extensively about it yesterday. My question was really whether anyone from here had tried to reach out to the 30-40 identified runners in close proximity that were noted early on in this thread and in the spreadsheets as to whether they actually ever saw Rossi on the course.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:36pm EDT

re: abingtonrunner

abingtonrunner wrote:
Yes, I understood exactly what the RD said or didn't say in their nonsensical statement. I wrote extensively about it yesterday. My question was really whether anyone from here had tried to reach out to the 30-40 identified runners in close proximity that were noted early on in this thread and in the spreadsheets as to whether they actually ever saw Rossi on the course.

"Hi, you don't know me. I'm an angry stalker from Letsrun.com.

Think back 9 months to the marathon you ran. Do you remember a guy in black shorts and a black shirt?"

"Don't ever call me again, weirdo. Click."

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:38pm EDT

re: abingtonrunner

abingtonrunner wrote:
MRtruther wrote:
The RD said they did not hear from anyone... Of course what they're not saying directly is that they never reached out to anyone, but simply no one came forward with information. Do you get it now? They never wanted to DQ him in the first place. The hard work put in by posters was nothing but donated time in the end, it's worthless.
Yes, I understood exactly what the RD said or didn't say in their nonsensical statement. I wrote extensively about it yesterday. My question was really whether anyone from here had tried to reach out to the 30-40 identified runners in close proximity that were noted early on in this thread and in the spreadsheets as to whether they actually ever saw Rossi on the course.

Abbingtonrunner - ignore the haters. You're doing the right thing and are on the right track. The support is still here. Especially when the Letsrun article is posted. We just need to stay vigilant and keep moving this thing forward.

Also, a word to anyone who is opposed to the pressure placed on LVM FB page - I do believe the marathon is a "good" marathon overall, with a good cause and a good experience for the runners (some more than others). However, when a non-transparent move is made like this one, where integrity is on the line, sometimes the response needs to be a little extreme to actually affect change.

8 years ago 06/02/2015 1:39pm EDT

re: abingtonrunner

so if a race participant recalled seeing him in the race that would mean what?

or if 18 months later no one recalled seeing him in the race that would mean what?

definitively would mean what?

the photos were the best shot at this, and there was still no DQ

it is really over

keep complaining and stirring it all up and pretty soon I will become a MR believer too

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