Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

whoknows wrote:

No idea, but my guess is that interest in BQing (and possibly cheating) has spiked since the bombing.

Correct. Last year several a-holes ran @ Boston with forged bibs. They were detected once the official race photographer posted images. However I never heard if the BAA ever successfully tracked down the identities of the frauds.

namenamenames wrote:

RunningPhreak wrote:

Plugging that data into standard calorie calculator equates to a weight of 183lbs. Looks about right judging by the photos.

Should be able to calculate time off that as well?

No, time is independent of calories for the most part. Basically calories burned is mass moved x distance. Speed doesn't matter. It does to a point when wind resistance is at play but on a treadmill it shouldn't make a difference.

RunningPhreak wrote:

namenamenames wrote:

Should be able to calculate time off that as well?

No, time is independent of calories for the most part. Basically calories burned is mass moved x distance. Speed doesn't matter. It does to a point when wind resistance is at play but on a treadmill it shouldn't make a difference.

Thanks for the lesson.

Not sure if this news report has been posted yet.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Viral-Boston-Marathon-Running-Dad-Accused-of-Cheating-303010481.html

Anyone look up if there's a connection between the guy he 'finished' closely behind and himself? Mike Rossi is a wedding DJ and a quick google of Douglas Rendall shows he recently had a wedding and they are both located in PA.

Long shot but any chance they know each other/planned this?

Someone Else' Else wrote:

No, but you do appear to be an adult. As such, you should recognize that many folks on here lack the maturity and human perspective that you are bringing to the table.

You know, the "NO WE CAN'T FEEL COMPASSION FOR THE GUY BECAUSE HE IS A PRICK AND SHOULD BE PUNISHED. WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS..." crowd.

Like I said, you appear to be an adult. Many cannot handle an adult perspective.

It's very likely he will be DQ'd, ideally something happens at BAA too. That's enough.

I'm not sure where you are going with this as it is taking a false statement and then taking it to an extreme.

Compassion? Yeah, sure. Lots of things to feel compassionate about in the story. But, it seems like you and maybe one other are trying to soften the public impact taking this compassion angle. It only enables this kind of personality.

Don't cheat to get into Boston (of all races to cheat into) and no one will have this problem again. It's pretty simple. Crazy, right?

Mr Cup wrote:

Anyone look up if there's a connection between the guy he 'finished' closely behind and himself? Mike Rossi is a wedding DJ and a quick google of Douglas Rendall shows he recently had a wedding and they are both located in PA.

Long shot but any chance they know each other/planned this?

There's no need to drag anyone else into it. There's nothing about this race that would require a partner to cheat. It's really as simple as walking off the course, getting in a car and driving, and then walking back on.

RunningPhreak wrote:

No, time is independent of calories for the most part. Basically calories burned is mass moved x distance. Speed doesn't matter. It does to a point when wind resistance is at play but on a treadmill it shouldn't make a difference.

Really? I always thought that when I was running at 5 minute pace I was burning way more calories than when I was running at 7:30 pace. Honestly I don't care about calories that much, but I'm curious - RunningPhreak, could you elaborate, or could someone else chime in on this?

(I get that it is basically mass x distance, but I thought that muscles were also less efficient at higher intensities or something, so that more energy gets wasted as heat. And I thought this could be pretty significant when pace varies by a lot, like I dunno, a 50% or 100% change when going from 7 minute pace to 4:30 pace.)

Whoa... did the LRMB have access to all 19,000 photos?

I always thought this as well, but I do not believe treadmills go into that much calculations when figuring "Calories Burned".

I think all the pics were posted, bc I remember seeing 107 pages when 180 pics were on each page. This would equal 19,260 pictures.

Raysism wrote:

We need to find out what video this guy has:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxIjOhC4_5s

Listening to this again, it's clear that this 3:55 marathoner's family was taking a lot of video of him. I'm not in a position to ask him what video he has in the comments, so hopefully someone here can.

SaraB wrote:

I forgot to add the link

https://instagram.com/p/ndTBPJuyFS/?taken-by=mikerossi22

SaraB is da bomb! CHecked out his instagram... and am I the only one that finds it beyond hilarious that at one point he posted this photo?

:D

Newbie Runner wrote:

mileage_man wrote:

Has cheating really not been a problem though? Or have we just become more aware of it?

I've always questioned those old timers who claim that "back in the day" runners were so much faster - everyone ran under 3 hrs, blah, blah, blah.

So easy to cut a course back then with no chips or photographers.

Wonder how many of those races had people cutting the course.

You're so far off here you are probably in the wrong galaxy dude.

The elites today are faster than the elites of yesteryear. But the masses of yesteryear were WAY faster than the masses of today.

The explanation is very simple and has nothing to do with cutting courses. The running culture was very, very different. Back then lots of people trained reasonably hard and very few raced to get a participant medal (which didn't exist). Today lots of people "race" to get a participant medal and only a relative handful train hard.

Can't remember if we've seen this one:

http://parkland.thelehighvalleypress.com/2014/09/11/thousands-run-lvhn-marathon

This guy must have more starting line photos stored somewhere.

Didn't Rossi start like 30 seconds or so after the gun? I think I remember us finding that. So maybe look at a different time range? If you already accounted for that I apologize.

ROSSI RUIZ wrote:

Can someone post the other Spreadsheet Link that is being worked on? I have this one:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0f2sI8FvoD4nFriEngQQXhwBqYbVLq0V5VjI2ARRp4/edit#gid=0

Would like the other one or just add it to the above document.

Thanks all for the hard work you are doing on your respected employers dime!

Don't think anyone else had re-posted it yet. Here's the spreadsheet Rojo set up w/ photo tracking, etc.:

p00pbreathbillionaire wrote:

Also, curious if anyone knows where I can buy this t-shirt

http://twitter.com/EVERLASTvegan/status/589947689208418305

it is sure to be a cult classic for runners years to come.

That would be an awesome shirt to have, especially if some sort of LRC-related humor was printed on the back.

This photo of the shirt design is actually more than good enough to create a replica by simply creating a vector outline and re-submitting the new high-res image to whatever shirt-making company desired (cafepress, etc). It would look exactly the same.

I could do this, if enough people are interested. I feel bad for being one of the grouchy people that slammed the brojos' Rupp-certified shirt. :)

NowFindJimmyHoffa wrote:

SaraB wrote:

I forgot to add the link

https://instagram.com/p/ndTBPJuyFS/?taken-by=mikerossi22

SaraB is da bomb! CHecked out his instagram... and am I the only one that finds it beyond hilarious that at one point he posted this photo?

https://instagram.com/p/cuYrp8uyJs/?taken-by=mikerossi22

:D

That is pretty funny!!

Am only up to page 30 for the spreadsheet but need a break. Will continue in a bit. He has gone completely silent on facebook now (Possibly cos I told people to ignore him until he answers questions. I'm sure he's still reading it though so i say hi to him occasionally. Hi Mike!!)