Do fish feel pain when hooked in the mouth?

fdfsdfasdf wrote:

Okee Run wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPa-ecYaoDc

Here's a rebuttal to this research.

Completely unwatchable. After a first minute of saying absolutely nothing, there's no way I'm going to waste 12 more minutes to hear her vegan point of view.

This chick has no credibility. She says she literally went out and read a few articles, and now she thinks she's some kind of authority on fish research. Give me a break.

The tattoos on her neck sorta gave it away. The fish puns sealed the deal.

Conundrum wrote:

There is an evolutionary reason why humans do that. Its what psychologist term "theory of the mind" and its evolved in humans because as social beings it has been important for our survival. We of course, as you mentioned, inappropriately apply this to many animals.

You see we really can never know what another human actually feels. But we do know how we feel and how we act when we feel that way. So we project the way we would feel when we act a certain way to people whom we see act that way.

Usually we are right, I guess. But I can only guess because I only really know how I feel. I can't actually feel what they feel.

Glad the worm feels no pain because I always kinda felt that it did.

This makes no sense. Are you high?

Conundrum wrote:

You see we really can never know what another human actually feels. But we do know how we feel and how we act when we feel that way. So we project the way we would feel when we act a certain way to people whom we see act that way.

Have you ever seen a guy get kicked in the balls?

I know EXACTLY how he feels!

PS - when people kick bears in the balls, they die.

Mohawk1984 wrote:

Bambi thinks, Nemo can talk (fish language of course, that Benji thinks like a human and that even as complex as they are, that chimpanzees experience the world like we do.

And they don't?, well I'll be buggered, my whole fairy tale, delusional world has just come crashing down.

bear are murder wrote:

Have you ever seen a guy get kicked in the balls?

I know EXACTLY how he feels!

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No, you only know exactly how you feel when it happens to you.

Conundrum wrote:

bear are murder wrote:

Have you ever seen a guy get kicked in the balls?

I know EXACTLY how he feels!

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No, you only know exactly how you feel when it happens to you.

Yes, everything is relative. There are no objective truths. Nothing good or bad in the world. Any argument is personal and cannot be generalized. All cultures are equally good. And of course, it's all about what YOU feel.

This my friends, is the liberals' ultimate dogma. And the dunce above is their prophet.

Conundunce wrote:

This my friends, is the liberals' ultimate dogma. And the dunce above is their prophet.

Please, we all know you don't have any friends. It's funny, I'm a liberal, (and thus, apparently, a relativist) yet I think the things you say are stupid and bad. How can this possibly be????

Conundrum wrote:

bear are murder wrote:

Have you ever seen a guy get kicked in the balls?

I know EXACTLY how he feels!

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No, you only know exactly how you feel when it happens to you.

What? No. When I seen a guy get kicked in the nuts, I know how he feels.

I got kicked in the nuts once. I fell down. I kinda wanted to throw up. I rolled around on the ground till it stopped hurting.

That is the same thing that happens to other guys who get kicked in the nuts.

I don't get you.

bear are murder wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

No, you only know exactly how you feel when it happens to you.

What? No. When I seen a guy get kicked in the nuts, I know how he feels.

I got kicked in the nuts once. I fell down. I kinda wanted to throw up. I rolled around on the ground till it stopped hurting.

That is the same thing that happens to other guys who get kicked in the nuts.

I don't get you.

Aaaaaand you're no longer relevant. No bear reference? Come on.

Conundunce wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

No, you only know exactly how you feel when it happens to you.

Yes, everything is relative. There are no objective truths. Nothing good or bad in the world. Any argument is personal and cannot be generalized. All cultures are equally good. And of course, it's all about what YOU feel.

This my friends, is the liberals' ultimate dogma. And the dunce above is their prophet.

The irony in your post almost seems intentional. ....you explaining to me exactly how I and other liberals feel.

You really think you know exactly how liberals feel.

bear are murder wrote:

What? No. When I seen a guy get kicked in the nuts, I know how he feels.

I got kicked in the nuts once. I fell down. I kinda wanted to throw up. I rolled around on the ground till it stopped hurting.

That is the same thing that happens to other guys who get kicked in the nuts.

I don't get you.

I don't really think that you would understand what I'm explaining. For common experience you are right. But understand everything you think about what others feel is your projection of how you would feel.

Its likely just the same but you don't ever experience another's experience. So you can never know how close it is to what you would feel.

(I know this is a wasted attempt)

Conundrum wrote:

bear are murder wrote:

What? No. When I seen a guy get kicked in the nuts, I know how he feels.

I got kicked in the nuts once. I fell down. I kinda wanted to throw up. I rolled around on the ground till it stopped hurting.

That is the same thing that happens to other guys who get kicked in the nuts.

I don't get you.

I don't really think that you would understand what I'm explaining. For common experience you are right. But understand everything you think about what others feel is your projection of how you would feel.

Its likely just the same but you don't ever experience another's experience. So you can never know how close it is to what you would feel.

(I know this is a wasted attempt)

I don't think you have ever been kicked in the balls.

Bearz rule

Conundrum I think I know what you are getting at. But this guy kinda has a good point too.

I work as an archaeologist at a research institute. We fish with humane methods. Fishermen use our development and leave reviews on the site. Fish have a peripheral and central nervous system. Bolivating receptors are located in the lateral line and on the head. This is a scientific fact.