If you could KNOW whether or not one runner doped/dopes, who would you pick?

Komen!!!

If he was clean running 32x 123x and 720 then anything is possible

mary decker slaney. strong suspicion but it would be fun to know.

RuKiddingME wrote:

Can't believe no one has mentioned Waldemar Cierpinski

People would only be shocked if he (or any east german athlete of the time period) was clean.

All or or nothing.

Knowing just one person does nothing.

We keep finding out individuals all the time and it doesn't help us understand who may be clean.

I do NOT want to know whether my dear Kennster was clean or not.

Kelly Lundy

TAA wrote:

Michael Johnson. My favorite T&F. A great guy on and off the track. He was dominate in a very dirty time. It would be interesting to know.

100% NOT clean

Carly Lewis wrote:

Carl is still in the closet. Don't expect him reveal anything.

Haha that's some REAL talk! Carl was never clean. He might not been on the same stuff Ben was on, but he was on some stuff!

deuce goose sluice caboose wrote:

There are a lot of questionable people out there, so who would you want to know is for sure clean/dirty?

It would be great to see Chrissie Wellington go down for doping. For some reason, triathlon fans go ape nuts when a cyclist or runner gets busted, but won't make any assumption that their favorites could be hopped up.

If they are in the top 25 performances of all time in their event it is 95-98% likely they are NOT clean.

With that being said...

Rudisha is the one runner I hope is clean and I think could be a rare exception.

I used to think Bolt also was also an exception, and just a freak, but I am 100% certain Blake is juiced out his gills and that makes me question the whole Glenn Mills camp.

The only athletes I think are clean right now that have been elite recently are Walter Dix, Kori Carter, and Jenna Prandini. Maybe Kirani James, Bromell and Andre DeGrasse at USC

Paula Radcliffe's marathon world record is remarkable but is it because she had chemical help? Or chemical help when training? Or is it because she could push herself mentally harder than others? Or is it that not enough talented women do marathon at the elite level to guarantee that her time is remarkable given human physiology?

I don't know the answer.[/quote]

Anyone who trained in Albuquerque........then stopped training in Albuquerque.

7 pages in and no mention of Teddy Mitchell?

messi wrote:

7 pages in and no mention of Teddy Mitchell?

To repeat... The thread is about those we're not sure whether they doped or not.

Kip Litton obv.

Bruce Denton

This, this, this. Based on this info., you should change the question and instead ask about a meeting as a whole (meaning all the competitors at a single meeting), and choose either the Chinese National Games of 1993 or the Chinese National Games of 1997 (and by the way, they're only held every 4 years, maximum, anyway, so that explains the gap)

I know everyone thinks Wang Junxia doped (me too), but all the times from both of those MEETINGS should be gone. Take the 1997 final, for example. You're telling me that that race produced 6 of the top 13 times of all-time in an often-run race, and times that still stand today? ...and that doesn't even include the heats.

You can't tell me that one girl, doped or not, just pulled the rest to fast times, either. When that happens today, they're not all still running 6 of the top 13 times ever. Take the Men's 2012 800m Olympic final. As one commentator said, every competitor ran a season's best, a personal best, a national record, or a world record...but the top 6 men in that race had 6 of the 43 times of all-time, not top 13.

Moreover, 9 of the top 13 times all-time (including the top 4) in the women's 1500m came from China in the mid-1990's (EPO era), yet China hasn't done diddley squat in women's track & field since? At least Ethiopia & Kenya have been good since they got good (which was 55 years ago).

Then the icing on the cake: Wang Junxia at the 1993 Chinese Nationals ran the world record in the 10,000m... then ran what was the 2nd-fastest ever in the 1500m (and is currently 4th) 3 days later... then ran the world record in the 3,000m 2 days later? No way.

Even though everybody "knows" they doped, we need the genie-wish to prove it, for the good of humankind, so that those doped Chinese records can be expunged.

When you think that the strongest female in Marathon has been found positive

for epo and the fourth fastest time on men half Marathon positive too for another substance and a lot of Others distance runners found positive in the recent years .Well you know is a system is not only one runner..Then they suspend managers, ha ha ha

ha ha!!! It's a system and the poor runners are part of the system they run for life and for glory ! But since there are substance that can really boost

your performance togheter with hard training regime it's easy to understand

you are more or less forced to take those substance if you want to have chance to compete with the best runners in the world .

In an ideal world the sport would be without doping , it seems that in bike sport nowdays they have done the best effort possible to catch all dopers the list is so long and they are testing everybody everywhere anytime , we know nowdays that the blood of 1998 bikers of tour de france was full of epo .

Cos they frozen the blood waitin for the forthcoming antidoping test for epo.

I cant tell the same of runners that won the olympic games or set world records in those years.....

Frank Shorter. He doth protest too much about Cierpinski. Sounds like he may have something to hide himself.

I knew a doping thread would bring Renato back.

Jeremy Wariner

I would be so pumped to know he was clean.