Dat Guy Welbeck wrote:
"What a weekend. Is Leblanc America's next star or is this the beginning of the end or Cain/Moser?" Maybe if she was American she would be... She is from Canada eh.
Which is not in America?
Dat Guy Welbeck wrote:
"What a weekend. Is Leblanc America's next star or is this the beginning of the end or Cain/Moser?" Maybe if she was American she would be... She is from Canada eh.
Which is not in America?
Plus Mexico too wrote:
Dat Guy Welbeck wrote:"What a weekend. Is Leblanc America's next star or is this the beginning of the end or Cain/Moser?" Maybe if she was American she would be... She is from Canada eh.
Which is not in America?
Frig off - you damn well knew what the original poster meant (and knew that he/she was wrong).
Napoli writes: "By the way, Ajee Wilson is better than all of these people and proved it again this weekend running fast all by herself in NJ. No love for her on these boards for some reason."
Hey Napoli...I think that you know why Ajee Wilson doesn't get any love on these boards! These are things that we know that we're going to experience. Trust me, Ajee doesn't about these people write, nor does Coach Derrick T. As for Mary and Moser, they'll be just fine and, nice victory for Annie. ( Who hasn't hit her high school time yet! I know that experience)
Bricks don't hit back.
napoli wrote:
Moser is on the downside of her career and she is not an 800m runner. No surprise she lost. Cain is the next best thing since slight bread according to this message board, and is a spring chicken who got beat at one of her stronger distances. That is why her loss is cause for concern.
By the way, Ajee Wilson is better than all of these people and proved it again this weekend running fast all by herself in NJ. No love for her on these boards for some reason.
I remember going to watch NCAAs in 2013 in Eugene and she gave me a look at the Original Pancake House that I maintain was my cue to go up to her and say hi. I'm sure the moment has passed for her. I've had a crush on her ever since.
Bad Wigins wrote:
gxchjvc wrote:strength based 800 runners have the advantage cause it's about who can kick when you're already lactic.
Enough of this ridiculous misuse of the word "strength."
It is called "endurance." Strength is about how much force you can generate, not for how long.
Amen
It's pretty obvious-but the trolls on here like to make nothing into a big deal...glad you pointed it out though.
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maybe NOP is in some massive training block or Moser and MC were told to do a particular race plan that didn't work against leblanc.[/quote]
noway wrote:
It's pretty obvious-but the trolls on here like to make nothing into a big deal...glad you pointed it out though.
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maybe NOP is in some massive training block or Moser and MC were told to do a particular race plan that didn't work against leblanc.
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Unless she had a 10 mile tempo run in the morning and she was in the end of a 100 mile+ week and she ran an interval session in the PM before the race, there is no way that any 4:00 runner should be running 4:17 in pretty much any circumstance...
This is dumb, even by letsrun standards.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Lets see her beat Cain when she is running well
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Lets see her beat Cain when she is running well
This is tantamount to saying " let's see her beat Cain when she doesn't beat Cain"
Yves wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:Enough of this ridiculous misuse of the word "strength."
It is called "endurance." Strength is about how much force you can generate, not for how long.
Finally someone who gets it. I'm so sick and tired of people on here not understanding this basic physiological concept.
What I don't get is how this misconception has spread in the english-speaking track clique, to the point where it's now the dominant interpretation of the word. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen this misuse in any other endurance sport.
It's not "misuse" of the term, and it has nothing to do with not understanding basic physiology. "Strength" is a distance running term of art that refers to one's comparable ability at a racing distance longer than the distance that one is targeting. Just like "speed" refers to one's ability at distances shorter than one is targeting, rather than absolute sprint speed. These terms aren't neologisms. They've been used in the track world for a very long time. They're useful because they describe concepts that underlie the training programs of the most successful athletes in the world.
If this common use of the term "strength" actually did reflect misunderstanding of physiology, rather than a silly semantic debate, then you'd see people doing the wrong workouts to work on "endurance." But you don't. You just see people describing their workouts in a way that everyone else understands, including you, but for some reason you're offended by the way people have settled on the meaning of a word in a particular context.
Bad Wigins wrote:
gxchjvc wrote:strength based 800 runners have the advantage cause it's about who can kick when you're already lactic.
Enough of this ridiculous misuse of the word "strength."
It is called "endurance." Strength is about how much force you can generate, not for how long.
Bad, you are WRONG. Use the dictionary some time my friend. One word can have a different meaning given the context.
"7. power of resisting force, strain, wear, etc. "
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/strengthPlus Mexico too wrote:
Dat Guy Welbeck wrote:"What a weekend. Is Leblanc America's next star or is this the beginning of the end or Cain/Moser?" Maybe if she was American she would be... She is from Canada eh.
Which is not in America?
Just to be a bit pedantic - America is an abbreviation of United States of America (you know USA). Otherwise to be inclusive, placing North in front of America is required to include Canada and Mexico.
I get what you're saying, though whether these are neologisms or not isn't really that important in my view.
You're right, I do understand what people on here mean when they talk about "strength" or "speed", at least most of the time. I guess the real issue occurs when the subject actually IS strength (as in the ability to exert force), cause then we have no term to describe this phenomenon. And seeing as strength is a key component in determining speed (over both short and long distances), it's a pity we obliterate the most precise word we've got.
I wish that more people will use the words endurance or stamina instead of "strength", and only utter the word strength when one speaks of the ability to exert force.
In my mind it would all just be so much easier if we'd stick to the original meaning of words, just like people do in cycling, cross-country skiing, swimming etc.
napoli wrote:
By the way, Ajee Wilson is better than all of these people and proved it again this weekend running fast all by herself in NJ. No love for her on these boards for some reason.
Yeah, I like Greg McMillan's use of 'endurance' and 'stamina' as somewhat separate concepts. When looking at the Oxford English Dictionary, I was delighted to find the following definition and example of the use of the word 'endurance':
The capacity of something to last or to withstand wear and tear.
EXAMPLE SENTENCES
The commonly traveled path to improved cardiovascular function and increased muscular endurance is continuous, submaximal, steady state training.
As for 'stamina', we have the following:
The ability to sustain prolonged physical or mental effort:
their secret is stamina rather than speed
So, endurance is at the very base, building up overall capacity, or the general abiltiy to last the distance. Stamina runs/workouts are done for less distance, but at a faster pace, thus enhancing the ability to run the race distance at a faster clip. If you like, they add more power to the capacity.
Raw speed needs to be developed as well, as does the ability to buffer acidosis, and these become even more important as the race distances get shorter.