"There is no harm,” the doctor says, according to the documentaries’ subtitles. “This is what we do almost every day.”
There is no harm,” the doctor says, according to the documentaries’ subtitles. “This is what we do almost every day.”
"There is no harm,” the doctor says, according to the documentaries’ subtitles. “This is what we do almost every day.”
There is no harm,” the doctor says, according to the documentaries’ subtitles. “This is what we do almost every day.”
I love that the doctor says he does it almost daily. That means lots of DOPING is going on in Kenya!!!
He even said the exact same thing twice, really enforcing his point.
All the Kenyans are dopers.
More evidence piling up. European meets should consider blacklisting athletes associated with certain 'agents' and 'coaches'.
Agreed Wow wrote:
I love that the doctor says he does it almost daily. That means lots of DOPING is going on in Kenya!!!
Yeah, several thousand runners in Iten, and almost once a day one of them takes EPO! Doping must be rife!
That is probably a month salary for most Kenyans, if not more. They can't afford that.
My previous post was deleted - I recommended that european meets consider blacklisting athletes associated with certain coaches and agents.
Why was my post deleted?
wowjustwow wrote:
"There is no harm,” the doctor says, according to the documentaries’ subtitles. “This is what we do almost every day.”
That is exactly what is said by doctors in every US city every day.
That's so weird because EPO doesn't even work on East Africans
I remember the regular Kenyan apologist clowns (e.g. rekrunner) were saying it was harder to get EPO in Kenya than the U.S. which is 100% not true.
In the U.S., you either need a prescription, which would mean going through a corrupt doctor, which would take some work to find (call Alberto?) or going the Christian Hesch route, that is getting it through the black market, e.g. Tijuana and risking serious criminal and legal charges.
In Kenya it is available at your local pharmacy without a prescription.
The Champ wrote:
More evidence piling up. European meets should consider blacklisting athletes associated with certain 'agents' and 'coaches'.
Blacklist the ones that see this doctor.
nodoping wrote:
That is probably a month salary for most Kenyans, if not more. They can't afford that.
You're probably joking but in case you aren't - it is much more significant if the top dogs are doping, i.e. Kipsang, Mutai, Kimetto, etc. In the past they have had the resources and opportunity to dope without anyone watching their backs. Maybe they doped, maybe they didn't, we don't know for sure (yet).
It is like a bank employee who deals with lots of cash and there are no cameras around.
Letsrun apologists wrote:
In Kenya it is available at your local pharmacy without a prescription.
Unless you saw it on the shelf next to the aspirin, I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. It is easy enough to get, and there are doctors there who are offering it, though what you wrote conjures up an image of having synthetic EPO placed on the aisle next to the allergy medication.
Prob one of the agents that are supplying the drugs don't want these kind of ideas being spread on the message boards.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Unless you saw it on the shelf next to the aspirin, I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. It is easy enough to get, and there are doctors there who are offering it, though what you wrote conjures up an image of having synthetic EPO placed on the aisle next to the allergy medication.
I am going by what my Kenyan co-workers have told me (who incidentally work in the pharmaceutical industry), plus the results of the investigations are corroborating this.
One thing that I didn't mention - there is a high probability that someone is paying for EPO, but they end up getting something less pure or counterfeit. There's always that risk.
Why cant they just inject l-carnatine and synthetic thyroid like Rupp and Farrah?
documentary here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhBZfUv3eZk
kenyandopers wrote:
All the Kenyans are dopers.
Some of these runners were tested in and out of country, How many longitudinal positives?
Kenya's doping finally being uncovered is a small problem compared to the IAAF almost never sanctioning apparently rampant EPO use.
If the Russian allegations apply, then Kenyans are paying IAAF officials to never test positive.