uh huh
another one bites the dust
things seem to be cleaning up better than I expected
uh huh
another one bites the dust
things seem to be cleaning up better than I expected
This is Jager's time. Mekhissi is out. Birech will likely be the world champ and we'll have to see how kemboi and kipruto come along during the season ill take a stab and say one of them will come back to form for silver and Jager can snatch the bronze.
Good find. Somehow I missed this. I just came across it today and found that once again nothing gets pass the LetsRun nation.
Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad will skip this outdoor season because of injury
http://www.vo2.fr/mahiedine-mekhissi-opere-et-forfait-pour-les-mondiaux/
He just had surgery on one foot following a problem he's had for a year. He will not train for three or four months and will have to skip the world championships.
Good riddance, that guy is a douche-nozzle anyways. Go Jager!
Old news
Kemboi is the greatest steepler ever, he will win easily.
birech came out of nowhere as a global threat last year. he could just as easily disappear.
i predict that jager will be beaten by some other kenyan who hasn't run sub-8:04 yet but will run at least that in 2015
rojo wrote:
Good find. Somehow I missed this. I just came across it today and found that once again nothing gets pass the LetsRun nation.
I understand it sells better to a mostly US audience, but I'd like to mention here I would never have titled this thread "Evan Jager's medal chances just went up - way up!!". The original title was something along the lines of "Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad is injured".
If I was the kind of `patriot' often encountered on these boards (and nearly everywhere else, let's be fair), being French, this title change would be quite ironic.
The title is a subtle way of admitting Jager has no chance of beating Bena MF Bad.
grox wrote:
Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad will skip this outdoor season because of injury
http://www.vo2.fr/mahiedine-mekhissi-opere-et-forfait-pour-les-mondiaux/He just had surgery on one foot following a problem he's had for a year. He will not train for three or four months and will have to skip the world championships.
I still think it is an uphill battle for Jager. When Kemboi, Birech and Koech are on top of their game, they are in a separate class, with Jager being among the best in the second tier. The good news for Jager is that Kenya can't seem to maintain its top steeplers, it seems like ever other year one of them just disappears. The bad news for Jager is that steeple in Kenya is as glamorous as the mile, they really love this event and it is not difficult for them to quickly transform a 13 minute 5K guy to the steeple. If Jager wins a steeple medal it will be a big deal. Kenyans have been running sub-8 steeples since the 1990s, they have had at least 15 sub-8 athletes and no other country has had one...they are really-really good at this event.
Winning an Olympic or WC steeple is about being with the leaders after running an 8:20 pace for 6 laps, this usually eliminates most non-Kenyans. The pace for the 7th lap will drop down to 8:15, at which point the Kenyans are just deciding who get gets which medal. If you are hanging on at this point, coming off the final turn is practically a sprint to the finish line. The championship times are usually not that fast, but only sub-8 guys are the only ones who can handle that fast 7th lap and be able to sprint to the finish line.
Jager automatically cuts off 1/2 second plus if he gets a boy's haircut.
TrackCoach wrote:
When Kemboi, Birech and Koech are on top of their game, they are in a separate class, with Jager being among the best in the second tier.
And that's always been the case but this could be the year as its already started up in ways to help Jager, MB the two time silver medalist is out now he only has to face down the kenyans.
Kemboi while he stated last year that he wanted to go and possibly aim for the WR he ended up what seemed like injured with only a bronze in the Commonwealth Games, will he be back? probably but who knows.
Brimin Kipruto honestly haven't heard anything about him lately, any updates? as of right now im just assuming he'll be there.
Birech, fast leap to stardom, like previous poster said, will it stick? I honestly hope so he seems like a great guy and I like watching him run.
Conselus Kipruto, will he be back after a disappointing 2014 after his stellar 2013? had a similar rise like Birech, will he come back and be a threat?
Koech, while a great runner hasn't be able to medal in the olympics/WC since his bronze in Athens.
Thats 5 that could be ahead of Jager, would have been 6 with MBB. Honestly though i see maybe 1 or 2 not showing up in top form leaving 3 or 4 and then its can Jager hang and outkick one?
grox wrote:
Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad will skip this outdoor season because of injury
http://www.vo2.fr/mahiedine-mekhissi-opere-et-forfait-pour-les-mondiaux/He just had surgery on one foot following a problem he's had for a year. He will not train for three or four months and will have to skip the world championships.
Not unless he can go sub 8
American steeple record is soft. Both men and women.
Erroneous comparisons regarding the percentage of AR to the open 3000.
You don’t compare the percentages of the records in order to justify how it equates to the 3K record, you compare the potential ability and caliber of athlete with the performance.
W AR STEEPLE 9:11.42 M AR STEEPLE 8:04.71
W 3K 8:25.83 (8.267% faster) M 3K 7:29.00 (7.367% faster)
3000 records are much stronger records in general. More talented runners focus on those events and have set the bar higher. 8:25 3000 is closer to the WR 8:58 for women. 6.54 % difference. This isn’t a set percentage but if you look at many comparative PR’s of 3200/2mile compared to steeple times at the college level often times the PR difference is similar. A 9 minute 2 miler can often achieve 9 flat in steeple with practice.
7:20.67 3000 is closer to a 7:49 steeple performance. Currently the men’s record has a tighter equivalent.
Throwing out the Chinese women’s times the next best 3000 at 8:16.6- an indoor record- would indicate 8:51.2 3K ST- at least. I think the women’s 3K flat isn't even as fast as it should be, but it may go lower this year than 8:16. One could argue there should only be about a minute difference between the men’s and women’s steeple records.
The bottom line is that there caliber of athletes especially on the American side in the steeple is not as strong as other middle distance events. The men’s AR is a bit better than the women’s Record which is more like a 8:10-11 men’s performance. Add to the fact that the barriers are much lower than they should be for 5’8”-5’9” women and that cements it.
Coburn and Jager are great athletes and right up there on the fringe of world class but we shouldn’t have accept the analogy when it comes to 3K performances.
We need a sub 9 and sub 8 Female- Male- it is about time. Maybe Coburn but more like Jager can achieve that standard.
and he\'s stil got no chance
Actually he is in with a medal shot as he races positively, one cut and past name missing makes little difference
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year