Anyone else disgusted by officiating in NCAA final tonight?

Every call you listed was debatable. Not to mention wrist grabbing and hand checking was MUCH more prevalent by Duke. They are KNOWN for playing defense that way and not having it be called. That is why Bo Ryan said "it's a shame it had to be played that way." It's not a surprise two freshmen fouled a lot early, especially with their style of play, and that a senior filled team didn't, especially with their style of play. I think it's strange that a team who rarely fouls gets called for 5 on 6 possessions as soon as they start to pull away, however I don't care about any of that. I have a problem that with the technology we have available to us, we can blatantly miss and not fix two clear out of bounds calls down the stretch. Those were the difference in the game. You can say they had plenty of chances to win, and you are right. However, as a neutral basketball fan in this game, I would have liked to see both given a fair chance to win.

Given your earlier demeaning remarks about Duke guys, your claim of neutrality comes across as disingenuous and dishonest.

Why would they use technology to review winslow stepping out of bounds? There was no call made to review. You can say there should have been but if they didn't see it they aren't going to stop the clock to review so all the technology in the world isn't going to help. By the way hey also could have called a foul on wisconsin for pushing winslow out.

Also, here is a little secret since you have obvioulsy never played basketball. When you drive to the basket, you get more foul calls than when you jack up long jumpers. This is particularly true when you are the better athlete.

Dekker traveling on that spin move was not debatable. It was a blatant travel that the officials missed.

The reason Bo Ryan said that is because he is a whiny girl who has proven to be the biggest sore loser in Final Four history.

Star wrote:

Given your earlier demeaning remarks about Duke guys, your claim of neutrality comes across as disingenuous and dishonest.

I don't feel like reading back through the idiot Duke homers who can't admit what the entire nation has been talking about since the game, but I certainly don't remember saying anything demeaning about Duke. They are good, probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the country this year with the best coach. They got a break in their region, and some breaks in the title game and took advantage of it. Good for them. But college basketball is a bit of a joke right now and this debacle didn't help.

The teams that win a lot in sports have a few things going for them.

1) Really really really good head coach: See Spurs, Seahwaks, Patriots, Green Bay Packers, Giants, Duke basketball, Alabama Football etc. Coaches who make adjustments, who are cerebral, who motivated players, students of the game, are detailed oriented and have systems that requires all players on the field of play to contribute. Poppivich, Bellicheck, Saban, etc. Bad coaches with good players (See Rex Ryan, Norv Turner, Scott Brooks, Mark Jackson) are rigid, don't make a lot adjustments, rely on one player a disproportionately and call stupid plays or timeouts when they don't need them. The Golden State Warriors are a great example of how one coach can make a team a lot better. You go from middle of the road west to best in the league. The Seattle Seahawks are a great example too. Pete Carrol was wpm at every level. He paid big money for a free agent QB but went with his undersized 3rd round pick anyway. He cut Percy Harvin (after trading a 1st round pick) and signed an aging Marshawn Lynch. A lot of these moves defy the typical NFL logic (you have to play the experienced veteran, you can't pay a running back that old) yet 3 seasons in a row and 1 super bowl later they are one of the best teams in the NFL.

2) Have really really really good players at the most important positions who aren't selfish. See LeBron, Tim Duncan, Tom Brady, Kobe Bryant, Aaron Rodgers and Russel Wilson. Players with a lot of talent but who aren't very cerebral or don't work that hard, don't win you a lot of championships but kind of keep you in the hunt ever year. See Allen Iverson, Collin Kaepernick, Tracy McGrady, Jay Cutler, Michael Vick, Randall Cunningham.

Duke had the better coach and the best players that night. Maybe not every night this season, but you give me a great PG, dominating center and Coach K in a college game, I will bet the farm on it.

I've admittedly tailored this to help my argument as there are some examples of physical dominance overtaking the mental aspects of the game. Shaq is a good example of someone just too dominant, and the Cowboys in the 90s had outstanding offensive line and incredible wide receivers. Their QB was good but not at the level of Brady or Rodgers.

Dial it up wrote:

Star wrote:

Given your earlier demeaning remarks about Duke guys, your claim of neutrality comes across as disingenuous and dishonest.

I don't feel like reading back through the idiot Duke homers who can't admit what the entire nation has been talking about since the game, but I certainly don't remember saying anything demeaning about Duke. They are good, probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the country this year with the best coach. They got a break in their region, and some breaks in the title game and took advantage of it. Good for them. But college basketball is a bit of a joke right now and this debacle didn't help.

You don't have to read back any further than your reply to me. You just reinforced what I said. It's so hypocritical of you to claim neutrality, but then paint anyone with a different viewpoint as an "idiot Duke homer". The frosting on the cake is your demeaning their championship run. You really need to take a long look in the mirror.

Dial it up wrote:

This is like trying to explain optics to people who dont even comprehend basic math.

This comment reminds me of this article.

The rest do, too.

beaner33 wrote:

2) Have really really really good players who aren't selfish. See Kobe Bryant, .

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Kobe Klanker was probably the most selfish player ever in the NBA