What is the most overrated part of training? What is most overlooked that shouldn't be?

Star wrote:

The most overrated part of training is the goal to achieve high a high volume of training.

The most overlooked part of your training is everything you do outside of scheduled training.

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One person may run 100 miles per week going hard each day but sleep 5 hours per night, eat crappy food and stay on his feet all day.

Another may run 50 miles or less with some good quality workouts mixed with very easy runs but get good regular sleep, eat well an stay off his feet most of the day.

The first person has the more impressive looking training log.

The second person is smarter about his training.

Also, other things being fairly equal, the first person will race faster.

all about the genes wrote:

Overrated- training

Underrated- better choice of parents

Over rated - worrying about genetics

Under rated - believing in yourself.

Star wrote:

The most overrated part of training is the goal to achieve high a high volume of training.

The most overlooked part of your training is everything you do outside of scheduled training.

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One person may run 100 miles per week going hard each day but sleep 5 hours per night, eat crappy food and stay on his feet all day.

Another may run 50 miles or less with some good quality workouts mixed with very easy runs but get good regular sleep, eat well an stay off his feet most of the day.

The first person has the more impressive looking training log.

The second person is smarter about his training.

The first person will break down sooner or later, and repeat injury-rehab cycles. The second person is likely to stay injury-free and steadily improve.

Consistency is underrated.

At first I thought this was sort of an interesting thread, but now it's getting old and the entire premise is sorta dumb.

That said -

overrated, any one type of training can be over done/over emphasized.

underrated (at least by what has been posted up here), a comprehensive and systematic approach to periodized training that emphasizes the various important components of mulitspeed training.

Star wrote:

The most overrated part of training is the goal to achieve high a high volume of training.

The most overlooked part of your training is everything you do outside of scheduled training.

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One person may run 100 miles per week going hard each day but sleep 5 hours per night, eat crappy food and stay on his feet all day.

Another may run 50 miles or less with some good quality workouts mixed with very easy runs but get good regular sleep, eat well an stay off his feet most of the day.

The first person has the more impressive looking training log.

The second person is smarter about his training.

My money is on the first guy in a race.

fitness builds confidence wrote:

all about the genes wrote:

Overrated- training

Underrated- better choice of parents

Over rated - worrying about genetics

Under rated - believing in yourself.

Acceptance is not worry

Believing that you don't have the genetics is still believing in yourself.

Most runners do have the genetics. People like you just want to make excuses.

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Star wrote:

The most overrated part of training is the goal to achieve high a high volume of training.

The most overlooked part of your training is everything you do outside of scheduled training.

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One person may run 100 miles per week going hard each day but sleep 5 hours per night, eat crappy food and stay on his feet all day.

Another may run 50 miles or less with some good quality workouts mixed with very easy runs but get good regular sleep, eat well an stay off his feet most of the day.

The first person has the more impressive looking training log.

The second person is smarter about his training.

The first person will break down sooner or later, and repeat injury-rehab cycles. The second person is likely to stay injury-free and steadily improve.

Consistency is underrated.

The first person is already doing more than the second guy ever will.

fitness builds confidence wrote:

Most runners do have the genetics. People like you just want to make excuses.

I believe I can't fly. And I am right.

fitness builds confidence wrote:

Most runners do have the genetics. People like you just want to make excuses.

Since you run slower than Farah you must be lazy and full of excuses.

Acceptance of facts wrote:

fitness builds confidence wrote:

Over rated - worrying about genetics

Under rated - believing in yourself.

Acceptance is not worry

Believing that you don't have the genetics is still believing in yourself.

You sound like a middle aged man who just realized he's too old to improve his PRs and now he's bitter towards all the younger kids who are getting faster. I'm sorry.

Get money buy a binnis wrote:

Acceptance of facts wrote:

Acceptance is not worry

Believing that you don't have the genetics is still believing in yourself.

You sound like a middle aged man who just realized he's too old to improve his PRs and now he's bitter towards all the younger kids who are getting faster. I'm sorry.

Why would middle age stop improvement? That's all up to genetics too.

cbenson4 wrote:

VO2 max is not *the* limiting factor in performance (there are dozens), but it can be one, depending on the event.

No, it cannot. VO2 max is a measure, not a physical entity. A measure cannot limit anything.

HRE wrote:

Star wrote:

The most overrated part of training is the goal to achieve high a high volume of training.

The most overlooked part of your training is everything you do outside of scheduled training.

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One person may run 100 miles per week going hard each day but sleep 5 hours per night, eat crappy food and stay on his feet all day.

Another may run 50 miles or less with some good quality workouts mixed with very easy runs but get good regular sleep, eat well an stay off his feet most of the day.

The first person has the more impressive looking training log.

The second person is smarter about his training.

Also, other things being fairly equal, the first person will race faster.

It may depend on the person and the event.

I think Lagat would perform all of his events better with the second approach.

I know I would do better with the second one.

Do you think someone running 200 mpw will always race faster (in a distance race) than any equally talented person running 100 mpw, all other things equal?

well,. wrote:

fitness builds confidence wrote:

Most runners do have the genetics. People like you just want to make excuses.

Since you run slower than Farah you must be lazy and full of excuses.

Compared to Mo, yes I am lazy. But not full of excuses. Think about that one.

you're dumb wrote:

cbenson4 wrote:

VO2 max is not *the* limiting factor in performance (there are dozens), but it can be one, depending on the event.

No, it cannot. VO2 max is a measure, not a physical entity. A measure cannot limit anything.

V02 max is a measure of physical entities at work.

Of course a measure can limit things.

you're dumb wrote:

cbenson4 wrote:

VO2 max is not *the* limiting factor in performance (there are dozens), but it can be one, depending on the event.

No, it cannot. VO2 max is a measure, not a physical entity. A measure cannot limit anything.

VO2 max is one of the least understood measurements.

Those with the highest VO2 max have the worst oxygen economy and vice versa.

The only reason VO2 max is as popular as it is, is because it requires very little technology to measure, thus it has been around since the 1920's. It is uninteresting in the 21st century.

It's an ever-changing variable, not a constant, therefore it cannot limit anything.

try to think wrote:

Of course a measure can limit things.

No it cannot, you moron.

Your statement is a fine sample of all the idiots that flock to Jack Daniels and his ilk.