To me smoking is a spiritual journey, it helps tune and integrate my mind, body and soul like nothing else. I will continue to smoke cigarettes and enjoy every puff to its fullest.
To me smoking is a spiritual journey, it helps tune and integrate my mind, body and soul like nothing else. I will continue to smoke cigarettes and enjoy every puff to its fullest.
Freelove wrote:
Also, Japan's smoking rate is lower than the US's.
Not according to Binks and he never makes up stuff.
non smoker wrote:
In the '50s and '60s, smoking was ubiquitous, so I can understand how people of that generation got into it. By the '80s, smoking had become cool in more of a rebellious kind of way, so I can see how a certain type of person might have been attracted to it. But by the time I was in high school in the early '00s, smoking was neither popular nor cool. In fact, people just thought you were white trash if you smoked.
And yet, I still occasionally pass by a person my own age who is smoking. Can someone explain the logic, here? What makes someone say "this is going to harm my health, cost me a fortune, and make me look like a redneck, but I still think it's a good decision"?
I don't have an answer for you, but I think that there should be an age cutoff for recovering damages from tobacco companies (especially punitive damages). By now, anybody who starts smoking knows it can kill you.
kmaclam wrote:
Came home from a Cranberries (remember them???) concert about 18 years ago where most all the young'uns were smoking (outdoor venue). Got so pissed off at their collective stupidity that I did a 180 and dropped about $4000 into Philip Morris stock. At that point the rest of all my savings were invested in a social index fund. Never touched it again & now it's worth almost $38,000. My guilt is tempered by the fact that EVERYONE (in the U.S.) now knows how deadly and addictive cigarretes are and if they choose to be so frigg'in cavalier about their health, then I'm going to make money off of them.
Yeah, smokers used to really annoy me then I bought MO (Altria/Marlboro, etc) after the spinoff of PM. Haven't been in it long enough to match your returns but I've doubled my money.
Now if I could find a way to capitalize on Christian hating trolls on letsrun, I'd really have something.
could be rojo wrote:
1) It feels good is the main reason.
2) I honestly have thought in the past, "It's a shame that smoking is bad for you as I think it's a great activity except for that. It feels good and in this day and age of everone being obsessed with their cell phones, it's a social activity. People are forced to do it outside so they talk to their fellow smokers."
If you like how smoking feels, just wait'll you get to try chemo!
Nicotine is an addictive drug, doesn't take much to get hooked. Very hard to quit.
Great American Smokeout wrote:
I am astounded that smoking has been reduced to such low levels. When I grew up in the 80's in a working class city in the Midwest, everyone smoked and the anti-smoking fight seemed hopeless. 20-30 years later I know very few people who smoke and it seems the the effort worked.
By contrast the war on drugs gained no ground whatsoever. I would have given them both the same odds of succeeding.
Did the opposite - moved recently from a large city (where few seemed to smoke) to a small town (liberal) where many people smoke, particularly the young locals.
A Duck wrote:
Great American Smokeout wrote:I am astounded that smoking has been reduced to such low levels. When I grew up in the 80's in a working class city in the Midwest, everyone smoked and the anti-smoking fight seemed hopeless. 20-30 years later I know very few people who smoke and it seems the the effort worked.
By contrast the war on drugs gained no ground whatsoever. I would have given them both the same odds of succeeding.
I wonder if mj was legal, if it truly would be a gateway to coke, heroin, meth...or if more people would just get addicted to mj, and probably fewer addicted to alcohol...
It is legal
non smoker wrote:
Binks wrote:I wonder what percentage of the modern non-smoking generation would climb aboard a B17 to fly bombing runs over Germany, storm across Waal river to capture the bridge at Nijmegen or attack Japanese strong-points at Okinawa?
You're exactly right. Add "unwillingness to bomb countries we aren't at war with using antique aircraft" to the long list of flaws exhibited by "kids these days."
lol post of the day
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Positive Contribution wrote:
non smoker wrote:You're exactly right. Add "unwillingness to bomb countries we aren't at war with using antique aircraft" to the long list of flaws exhibited by "kids these days."
lol post of the day
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+1 Amazing
almond milk latte wrote:
Positive Contribution wrote:This is why I am addicted to this site...err sight.
lol post of the day
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+1 Amazing
Smoking = weakness
I don't know anyone under the age of 30 who is a real smoker. I know a couple who will go out and have a smoke if they are drinking, but no one who smokes outside of that. Either way, you are still looked at as a dirtbag.
My great grandfather smoked a pack a day for almost 80 years, and died when he was 99. The only reason he stopped was when the nursing home he was in wouldn't let him smoke anymore, at 98 years old.
He was a farmer for 60+ years and spent 14 hours a day working, so maybe that helped him out a bit.
Yea I'm 22 and finally succeeded in switching from cigarettes to pot. Been trying but finally did it. So far though the deep suck in toke of the joint seems to kill m lungs worst than cigs! But since pot toke smoke, that aren't spiked, are healthy for me I am happy that is the only smoke in my lungs. Better than light cigs. At least that's what the libs advise me.
Sarcasm R Us wrote:
Freelove wrote:Also, Japan's smoking rate is lower than the US's.
Not according to Binks and he never makes up stuff.
Really?
I don’t think so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capitaI notice we in the UK are well down the list, are we any healthier than those in the countries above us?
I see no evidence of it.
Where I'm coming from, it's why the hell does anyone smoke under 30 cigarettes?
MO (not Farah) wrote:
kmaclam wrote:I did a 180 and dropped about $4000 into Philip Morris stock. At that point the rest of all my savings were invested in a social index fund. Never touched it again & now it's worth almost $38,000. My guilt is tempered by the fact that EVERYONE (in the U.S.) now knows how deadly and addictive cigarretes are and if they choose to be so frigg'in cavalier about their health, then I'm going to make money off of them.
Yeah, smokers used to really annoy me then I bought MO (Altria/Marlboro, etc) after the spinoff of PM. Haven't been in it long enough to match your returns but I've doubled my money..
I like how ya's think. So-called sin stocks, booze, cigs companies are always great long-term investments. In that regard, since it's clear more states are going to legalize marijuana to some degree, and it's also proven addictive and appeals to the same hapless crowd as cigs, what stocks do you know of that are worth investing in now?
Binks wrote:
Sarcasm R Us wrote:Not according to Binks and he never makes up stuff.
Really?
I don’t think so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capitaI notice we in the UK are well down the list, are we any healthier than those in the countries above us?
I see no evidence of it.
Cigarette consumption per capita is not the same thing as smoking rate. The percent of people who smoke could be lower, and the number of cigarettes consumed per person could still be higher.
Also, those stats are from 2007. Given the rate at which smoking is increasing in Asia, I imagine these numbers have changed a lot in the past eight years.
two things... wrote:
Cigarette consumption per capita is not the same thing as smoking rate. The percent of people who smoke could be lower, and the number of cigarettes consumed per person could still be higher.
Also, those stats are from 2007. Given the rate at which smoking is increasing in Asia, I imagine these numbers have changed a lot in the past eight years.
Zombie thread alert!
Japan 2007 - 1841 cigs/person. Japan 2014 - 1713 cigs/person.
Most Asian countries did increase their per capita smoking from 2007 to 2014, but not Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capitaChina went from 1711 to 2249 cigs/person. An increase of ~27 packs per person/year over how many billion people? Holy cow. Looks like investment in Chinese cigarette compaies may be the way to go here.
Smoking is disgusting.
Freedom is great, do what you want, but smokers should have to surrender any rights they may have to taxpayer subsidized health care. If they want to pay for their future (horrifically expensive) cancer/emphysema treatments, then so be it but nobody else should have to chip in.