Tyson Gay is now being coached by John Smith

How many major sprint coaches in this country have not coached numerous dopers? The ranks of the elite U.S. sprinters (by the end of their careers) are almost completely proven or suspected dopers. I remember counting back nearly every U.S. woman sprinter in the semis as a known doper from the 2000 Olympic Trials and similar results would be the case for most recent U.S. champs.

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Heat 1 Wind Reading: -0.4

1 Marion Jones Nike 10.93

2 Torri Edwards Nike 11.14

3 Chryste Gaines adidas 11.15

4 Carlette Guidry adidas 11.20

5 Shakedia Jones UCLA 11.32

6 Angela Williams Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.33

7 Brianna Glenn Arizona 11.56

8 Angela Daigle Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.64

Heat 2 Wind Reading: -1.0

1 Inger Miller Nike 11.10

2 Gail Devers Nike 11.25

3 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 11.25

4 Passion Richardson Nike 11.46

5 Cheryl Taplin Nike 11.54

6 Tonya Carter Florida State 11.57

7 Angela Manuel Unattached 11.62

8 Muna Lee Unattached 11.67

Final - Results - Saturday 07/15/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Wind Reading: -1.0

1 Marion Jones Nike 10.88

2 Inger Miller Nike 11.05

3 Chryste Gaines adidas 11.13

4 Torri Edwards Nike 11.15

5 Gail Devers Nike 11.15

6 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 11.18

7 Carlette Guidry adidas 11.22

8 Passion Richardson Nike 11.32

Semi-Finals - Results - Sunday 07/23/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Heat 1 Wind Reading: 2.3

1 Marion Jones Nike 22.08

2 Inger Miller Nike 22.40

3 LaTasha Jenkins Nike 22.54

4 Latasha Colander-Richrd Nike 22.56

5 Shakedia Jones UCLA 22.57

6 Kisha Jett Unattached 23.15

7 Shekera Weston Clemson 23.67

Heat 2 Wind Reading: 1.7

1 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 22.52

2 Michelle Collins Nike 22.57

3 Torri Edwards Nike 22.65

4 Carlette Guidry adidas 23.03

5 Kinshasa Davis USC 23.11

6 Wyllesheia Myrick Miami 23.14

7 Kelli White adidas 23.36

8 Michele Davis Nevada-Las Vegas 23.52

Final - Results - Sunday 07/23/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Wind Reading: 0.5

1 Marion Jones Nike 21.94

2 Inger Miller Nike 22.09

3 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 22.38

4 Torri Edwards Nike 22.68

5 Latasha Colander-Richrd Nike 22.76

6 Michelle Collins Nike 22.80

7 LaTasha Jenkins Nike 22.99

8 Carlette Guidry adidas 23.15

Kelli White:

http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/SPORTS-AND-DRUGS-Kelli-White-suspended-The-2757572.php

Marion Jones:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/04/AR2007100401666.html

Inger Miller:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/3014716/Athletics-Miller-failed-drug-test-in-1999.html

Torri Edwards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torri_Edwards#Doping_ban

Latasha Jenkins:

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3155758

She was the first to win a doping case because her positive test for nandrolone was not handled by two separate technicians, but only one. She was coached by Trevor Graham, like Latasha Colander-Richard--who was reported by a Swedish newspaper to have tested positive but I found no other such report.

Michelle Collins is listed below with performances annulled due to doping offenses:

performances annulled due to doping offense

1 21.84 +0.7 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Sydney 28.09.2000

2 22.05 -0.3 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Saint-Denis 28.08.2003

3 22.11 -0.3 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Bruxelles 30.08.2002

4 22.21 ±0.0 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Palo Alto 22.06.2003

5 22.23 +1.6 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 h1 Eugene 23.06.2001

6 22.25A +0.8 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 Colorado Springs 20.07.1982

7 22.31 +1.6 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Monaco 13.09.2003

8 22.32 -0.4 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Ostrava 12.06.2002

9 22.33A -0.5 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Ciudad de México 03.05.2003

10 22.35 +0.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Palo Alto 23.06.2002

11 22.37 +1.4 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 Ottawa 01.08.1982

12 22.38 +0.5 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Bruxelles 24.08.2001

12 22.38 +0.5 Torri Edwards USA 31.01.77 s1 Sacramento 17.07.2004

14 22.39 -0.8 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Edmonton 10.08.2001

14 22.39 -1.2 Torri Edwards USA 31.01.77 Sacramento 18.07.2004

16 22.40 -1.4 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 s1 Sydney 28.09.2000

16 22.40 +0.3 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 s1 Edmonton 09.08.2001

18 22.43 +0.7 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Saint-Denis 04.07.2003

19 22.44 +0.6 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 Koblenz 25.08.1982

20 22.46 +1.4 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 h1 Palo Alto 22.06.2002

21 22.48 ±0.0 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 Köln 22.08.1982

22 22.50 -0.3 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 q2 Sydney 27.09.2000

22 22.50 +0.1 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Palo Alto 23.06.2002

22 22.50 -0.1 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 s1 Saint-Denis 27.08.2003

25 22.52 -1.6 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 Eugene 24.06.2001

26 22.53 +0.7 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Zagreb 08.07.2002

27 22.54 -0.3 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 s3 Edmonton 09.08.2001

28 22.55 +0.8 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 Les Abymes 16.05.1981

28 22.55 -1.0 Angela Issajenko CAN 28.09.58 Berlin 21.08.1987

28 22.55 +1.0 Semoy Hackett TTO 27.11.88 s2 London 07.08.2012

31 22.56 -0.8 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Edmonton 10.08.2001

31 22.56 ±0.0 Kelli White USA 01.04.77 Saint-Denis 05.07.2002

33 22.58 +0.5 Crystal Cox USA 28.03.79 Palo Alto 31.05.2004

performances annulled due to doping offense - indoors

1 22.18 Michelle Collins USA 12.02.71 Birmingham 15.03.2003

2 22.31 Michelle Collins USA 12.02.71 s2 Birmingham 14.03.2003

Great post. Great counterpoint to those who point to a "dark era" of 80's, 90's and 00's, as if it is seperate or removed from our current culture.

Haha. We runners have run gum and nasal strips for running. Real long distance running, naturally, takes obsessive compulsive training (including family vacations, holidays, and birthdays), active recovery (so we don't feel guilty), poor nutrition (lots of gluten free pancakes, binges of ice cream, and other fad foods), and sleep and decades of obsessive compulsive training to destroy our bodies and create leathered skin. We essentially see no results (at least anything under 6 minute pace anyway), definitely no big pumps (unless you count the way my temporalis vein swells when I try to bench the bar with 2 x 10's) , for sure no sexy bimbos (they just don't dig the khakis, old race tshirt, and used running shoe look) and, run gum, nasal strips, no money, cheap plastic awards, fake piety, mom's basement, broken down hondas, watches with white salt stains, pretending to drink and party, only go hard because "light" training is for wussies, etc. Essentially a lying shallow cheating culture that couldn't be truly further from the essence of health, balance, and spiritualism.

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6385454#ixzz3Uz0rO9oO

This is bad for the sport. Gay shows his desperation to try drugs 3 years ago in first place in quest to defeat Bolt. Like Lance A he is rationalizing his decision in that "they all do it including Bolt." Of course Gatlin is with convicted drug cheat Dennis Mitchell. Great image for our sport.

Now I am not convinced Smith will be able to do much with him. Not exactly done anything with English Gardner as she had backslid nearly half a second on her average top times since arriving in LA from Oregon. Jeter has been injury plaqued last few years.

Ryan Bailey is reported in this month's Track and Field News as having left John Smith which is what Walter Dix did after a year and so did Richard Thompson and Saidy Ndure.

ad man#2 wrote:

onceagain wrote:

Nike signed Tyson Gay today and sent him to John Smith who is a Nike coach who has had multiple athletes test positive for drugs.

What does this say about the company and there care for PED's?

https://twitter.com/StuartMcMillan1/status/578732320145838080

No he did not sign with Nike. Please pull the foot out of your mouth.

If you had any 'inside' knowledge of the sport, you would know that John Smith does not work with anyone that isn't Nike. That's just the way it goes. You can pull your own foot out of your mouth to do the advanced math on this one.

I have a question about Gay's remarkably short suspension due to testing positive. So, I kept hearing that he got a light ban (was it even 1 year?) because of the valuable information he provided USADA. I kept waiting to hear what he revealed, thinking it must be something really juicy.

But I never heard much of anything! As far as I can tell, the incredibly important revelation given by Tyson Gay was, uh, Coach Drummond was the one that made me take it. And he transported it for me.

So Gay gets one year, and Drummond gets 8 years? Sorry, but that's a load of BS. I'm surprised more hasn't been made of this. What's so great about that information that it deserves such a big reduction for Gay? For all his talk about being a big man and facing the music, all he did was blame his coach, and got virtually no punishment.

Hoof in mouth wrote:

ad man#2 wrote:

No he did not sign with Nike. Please pull the foot out of your mouth.

If you had any 'inside' knowledge of the sport, you would know that John Smith does not work with anyone that isn't Nike. That's just the way it goes. You can pull your own foot out of your mouth to do the advanced math on this one.

THIS.

It's all in here:

Basically, it says that Drummond convinced Gay that this cream and other mumbo jumbo from this guy Clayton was okay and then was misleading about it (there are multiple times where his testimony is labeled as inconsistent). As a result, Gay lost all results from the date he first used the cream, and then a further year for a total two years banned, from July 2012 until July 2014. Drummond was cited for trafficking a banned substance, and for recommending Gay see and trust Gibson, after he had already known that Gibson had attempted to provide banned substances to other athletes. This is all in the last couple of pages. It says in the report that the recommended punishment for those acts is 4 years to life, and they settled on 8 (maybe because of his position as an official national team coach, or maybe because they thought he was lying to them).

And to answer Nutella1's question (who I guess didn't see this when it came it), it was DHEA.

I love how as people we can bash and hate a person when they do wrong but not be ready to point a finger at ourselves when we do wrong also. Let me give you an insider on this. There was no pressure on Tyson to beat Bolt or try to find a quick mix of drugs to try to beat him. Tyson wanted to run healthy and that's what he was working to. Because as we all know Tyson has been battling injuries the past several years and still given everyone the business. When healthy Bolt can't beat Tyson for example when Tyson beat him I believe is Lausanne. But you guys think what he want. And you ask yourself why Bolt hasn't gotten caught? Are we ready to hang up Track and Field as a sport, because Bolt is track and field. He has brought this sport to a level he has never been before. When Lance Armstrong was winning the tour de France everyone and their mother was watching it. What happen when he retired? It went right down the drain. And that's why I think he hasn't gotten caught and probably will never get caught. Now back to Tyson, like I said he wanted to run healthy and if your coach or any coach has a solution for that your willing to hear it out. As a athlete you do what your coach says because he knows more then you and you trust its for the best. A coach is a person who is the mastermind behind what's going on. Still doesn't give an excuse for Tyson because ultimately he should have the final say. Now why Tyson is with Smith, Tyson has always wanted to train with Smith but couldn't because of his relationship with Adidas and Smith relationship with Nike. So that's why Tyson got with Drummond and it worked because Braumann went to jail and they just continued that relationship when he got out. In order for Tyson to get down with Smith he would either have no sponsorship or sign with Nike. After Adidas abandon Tyson why I say abandon because several athletes also got caught from Adidas and they were never dropped for example Baptiste who was caught with the same thing Tyson got caught with. But that's here nor there. But we also have to remember Tyson is human and has a family and bills to pay. And sponsors are investors who really don't take big hits. Its either a good investment or the shrug of the shoulders and they move on. I can tell you when Adidas dropped him Nike wasn't the only one interested. Asics called. Under Armour dropped the ball and signed Manteo Mitchell which I am still puzzled by and then Nike called. Now if you think Tyson and Smith Relationship Wont do anything your stupid. Tyson is a technical runner and Smith is a technical coach a match made in heaven. But I don't Blane USATF or USADA for giving Tyson that punishment. Why? If you take out Gatlin and Gay who else do you have from 200 down that's consistent? People make mistakes we are human, its what you do with the mistakes. And it's how you fall, you can fall backwards and continue to do the same things over and over again or fall forwards.

On wait! Yes Tyson is signed with Nike and yes the low balled him. But for him it wasnt about the money but about Smith and Tyson still chasing after his dream.

It is useful to hear this explanation. Thanks.

LONDON 2012

ATHLETICS,100M MEN

FINAL

Rank Athlete NOC Result Notes

Usain BOLT JAM 9.63

Yohan BLAKE JAM 9.75

Justin GATLIN USA 9.79

4 Tyson GAY USA 9.80

5 Ryan BAILEY USA 9.88

6 Churandy MARTINA NED 9.94

7 Richard THOMPSON TTO 9.98

8 Asafa POWELL JAM 11.99

Justin Gatlin, twice banned:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/29515182

Yohan Blake, 3 month ban:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/8240046.stm

Tyson Gay, 1 year ban:

http://www.propublica.org/article/cheat-sheet-the-tyson-gay-file

Ryan Bailey working with Victor Conte:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/olympics/london-2012/48396/six-out-ten-olympic-athletes-drugs-says-balco-chief

Asafa Powell, 18 month doping ban reduced with Simpson to six months:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/28303077

performances annulled due to doping offense

1 9.75 +1.1 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 Des Moines 21.06.2013

2 9.77 +1.7 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 Ad-Dawhah 12.05.2006

3 9.78 +2.0 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Paris 14.09.2002

4 9.79 +1.1 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Seoul 24.09.1988

4 9.79 +2.0 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 rA Lausanne 04.07.2013

6 9.80 +1.5 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 London 05.08.2012

7 9.83 +1.0 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Roma 30.08.1987

7 9.83 -0.1 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 Lausanne 23.08.2012

9 9.84 +2.0 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Oslo 13.07.2001

10 9.85 -0.2 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Edmonton 05.08.2001

11 9.86 +1.1 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 h1 Ad-Dawhah 12.05.2006

12 9.87 +2.0 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Paris 14.09.2002

12 9.87 -0.1 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 New York City 03.06.2006

14 9.88 +1.0 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 r1 Eugene 28.05.2006

15 9.90 +0.2 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Zürich 17.08.2001

15 9.90 +1.7 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 s3 London 05.08.2012

17 9.91 +0.3 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Bruxelles 30.08.2002

18 9.93 +1.6 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 h2 Zürich 16.08.2002

18 9.93 -1.2 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 Indianapolis 23.06.2006

18 9.93 -0.2 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 Saint-Denis 17.07.2009

18 9.93 +1.4 Steve Mullings JAM 29.11.82 Arzana 30.07.2011

22 9.94A +0.6 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 rA Pretoria 12.04.2002

22 9.94 +0.9 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 rA Roma 12.07.2002

22 9.94 +1.6 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 h2 Zürich 16.08.2002

25 9.95 +0.8 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 r1 Moskva 09.07.1986

25 9.95 ±0.0 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Köln 16.08.1987

25 9.95 +1.8 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Osaka 11.05.2002

25 9.95 -0.1 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 Osaka 06.05.2006

29 9.96 ±0.0 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Bruxelles 24.08.2001

29 9.96 -0.3 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 München 07.08.2002

29 9.96 +0.4 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 Roma 10.07.2009

29 9.96 +0.6 Steve Mullings JAM 29.11.82 s1 Kingston 24.06.2011

29 9.96 +1.0 Mike Rodgers USA 24.04.85 Monaco 22.07.2011

34 9.97 -1.2 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Zürich 19.08.1987

35 9.98 +1.6 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Ottawa 01.08.1987

35 9.98A +1.7 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Sestriere 11.08.1988

35 9.98 -1.3 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Zürich 16.08.2002

35 9.98 +0.5 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 London 23.08.2002

35 9.98 +0.6 Steve Mullings JAM 29.11.82 r4 Lignano Sabbiadoro 19.07.2011

40 9.99 -1.2 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 s1 Indianapolis 23.06.2006

41 10.00 -0.4 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Canberra 04.10.1985

41 10.00 -0.2 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Koblenz 13.08.1987

41 10.00 +1.1 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 r2 Zürich 17.08.1988

44 10.01 +0.9 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 San José 31.05.1986

44 10.01 +1.1 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 rA Lausanne 04.07.2001

46 10.02 +1.1 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Roma 10.09.1986

46 10.02 +1.6 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Calgary 05.06.1987

46 10.02 +1.9 Horace Dove-Edwin SLE 10.02.67 Victoria 23.08.1994

46 10.02 +0.6 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 s1 New Orleans 19.06.1998

46 10.02 +0.2 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 r1 Linz 26.07.1999

46 10.02 +0.3 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Berlin 06.09.2002

46 10.02 +0.4 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 h3 Indianapolis 23.06.2006

53 10.03 -0.7 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Zürich 13.08.1986

53 10.03 -1.2 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 s2 Seoul 24.09.1988

53 10.03 +0.8 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 Roma 07.07.1999

53 10.03A +1.5 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Cape Town 19.04.2002

53 10.03 +0.3 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Manchester 15.06.2002

53 10.03 ±0.0 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Tríkala 24.06.2003

53 10.03 +0.6 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 q4 Saint-Denis 24.08.2003

60 10.04 +1.4 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 San Juan 20.09.1985

60 10.04 +0.1 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 r3 Athínai 16.06.1999

60 10.04 -0.4 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Saint-Denis 06.07.2001

60 10.04 +0.2 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Annecy 22.06.2002

60 10.04 -0.1 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 h1 Stockholm 16.07.2002

60 10.04A ±0.0 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Ciudad de México 03.05.2003

60 10.04 -0.3 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Osaka 10.05.2003

60 10.04 +1.0 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 h4 Palo Alto 19.06.2003

60 10.04 +0.6 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 q1 Saint-Denis 24.08.2003

60 10.04 +1.8 Mickey Grimes USA 10.10.76 Eugene 19.06.2004

60 10.04 -0.1 Steve Mullings JAM 29.11.82 Kingston 26.06.2004

60 10.04 -1.6 Mike Rodgers USA 24.04.85 London 05.08.2011

72 10.05 +1.8 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Malmö 10.08.1987

72 10.05 +1.9 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 h1 New Orleans 19.06.1998

72 10.05 +1.3 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 Villeneuve d'Ascq 13.06.1999

72 10.05 +0.8 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 s1 Eugene 25.06.1999

72 10.05 +0.6 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 Stockholm 30.07.1999

72 10.05 +1.1 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 Knoxville 06.04.2002

72 10.05 +0.5 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 s1 Baton Rouge 31.05.2002

72 10.05 -0.1 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 rA Oslo 28.06.2002

72 10.05 -1.3 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Zürich 16.08.2002

72 10.05 +0.5 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 London 23.08.2002

72 10.05 +0.4 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 h2 Roma 10.07.2009

83 10.06A +0.1 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 r1 Provo 24.05.1986

83 10.06 +1.8 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Birmingham 18.07.1986

83 10.06 +0.3 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Bruxelles 05.09.1986

83 10.06 +0.5 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Sevilla 28.05.1987

83 10.06 +0.8 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 s2 Manchester 27.07.2002

83 10.06 +0.9 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 h1 London 08.08.2003

83 10.06 +0.6 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 s2 Saint-Denis 25.08.2003

90 10.07 +1.6 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Ottawa 21.06.1986

90 10.07 +1.6 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Edinburgh 27.07.1986

90 10.07 +1.9 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 Athínai 20.06.1987

90 10.07 -1.7 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 s2 Edmonton 05.08.2001

90 10.07 +1.0 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 Starkville 11.05.2002

90 10.07 +1.7 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 h5 Saint-Denis 24.08.2003

90 10.07 -0.2 Marvin Anderson JAM 12.05.82 Kingston 27.06.2009

90 10.07 ±0.0 Mike Rodgers USA 24.04.85 h2 London 05.08.2011

98 10.08 -0.1 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 r2 Athínai 16.06.1999

98 10.08 +0.2 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 h2 Eugene 21.06.2001

98 10.08 ±0.0 Patrick Jarrett JAM 02.10.77 Kingston 22.06.2001

98 10.08 +0.1 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 h1 Zürich 17.08.2001

98 10.08 +1.8 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 rA Walnut 21.04.2002

98 10.08 -0.2 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 r1 Athínai 10.06.2002

98 10.08 +0.4 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Saint-Denis 05.07.2002

98 10.08 -0.1 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Stockholm 16.07.2002

98 10.08 +0.1 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 q4 München 06.08.2002

98 10.08 -1.6 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Birmingham 26.07.2003

98 10.08 ±0.0 Mickey Grimes USA 10.10.76 h1 Santo Domingo 05.08.2003

98 10.08 ±0.0 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 Saint-Denis 25.08.2003

98 10.08 +0.6 Tim Montgomery USA 28.01.75 Fort-de-France 24.04.2004

111 10.09A +0.2 Ben Johnson CAN 30.12.61 r2 Provo 24.05.1986

111 10.09 +1.0 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 Stuttgart 06.06.1999

111 10.09 -0.4 Dennis Mitchell USA 20.02.66 Malmö 02.08.1999

111 10.09 -0.3 Dwain Chambers GBR 05.04.78 rA Roma 11.07.2003

111 10.09 -0.2 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 Kingston 27.06.2009

111 10.09 +0.6 Mike Rodgers USA 24.04.85 r4 Lignano Sabbiadoro 19.07.2011

for reference, here are the "legal" times under 9.83, all time, quite a number run by people banned at other times, 32 out of the top 52 performances all-time have been run by sprinters who have subsequently or earlier served doping bans!

All-time men's best 100m

1 9.58 +0.9 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Berlin 16.08.2009

2 9.63 +1.5 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 London 05.08.2012

3 9.69 ±0.0 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Beijing 16.08.2008

3 9.69 +2.0 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 Shanghai 20.09.2009

3 9.69 -0.1 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1 Lausanne 23.08.2012

6 9.71 +0.9 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 2 Berlin 16.08.2009

7 9.72 +1.7 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1rA New York City 31.05.2008

7 9.72 +0.2 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1rA Lausanne 02.09.2008

9 9.74 +1.7 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1h2 Rieti 09.09.2007

10 9.75 +1.1 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1 Kingston 29.06.2012

10 9.75 +1.5 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 2 London 05.08.2012

12 9.76 +1.8 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Kingston 03.05.2008

12 9.76 +1.3 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Bruxelles 16.09.2011

12 9.76 -0.1 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Roma 31.05.2012

12 9.76 +1.4 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1rA Zürich 30.08.2012

16 9.77 +1.6 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Athínai 14.06.2005

16 9.77 +1.5 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Gateshead 11.06.2006

16 9.77 +1.0 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1rA Zürich 18.08.2006

16 9.77 +1.6 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1q1 Eugene 28.06.2008

16 9.77 -1.3 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Bruxelles 05.09.2008

16 9.77 +0.9 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1h1 Rieti 07.09.2008

16 9.77 +0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 Roma 10.07.2009

16 9.77 -0.3 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Moskva 11.08.2013

16 9.77 +0.6 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1 Bruxelles 05.09.2014

25 9.78 ±0.0 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Rieti 09.09.2007

25 9.78 -0.4 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 London 13.08.2010

25 9.78 +0.9 Nesta Carter JAM 10.11.85 1 Rieti 29.08.2010

25 9.78 +1.0 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1rA Lausanne 30.06.2011

29 9.79 +0.1 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 1r3 Athínai 16.06.1999

29 9.79 -0.2 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Saint-Denis 17.07.2009

29 9.79 +0.1 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1 Bruxelles 27.08.2010

29 9.79 +1.1 Tyson Gay USA 09.08.82 1h1 Clermont 04.06.2011

29 9.79 +0.6 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Oslo 07.06.2012

29 9.79 +1.5 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 3 London 05.08.2012

35 9.80 +0.2 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 1 Sevilla 22.08.1999

35 9.80 +1.3 Steve Mullings JAM 29.11.82 1 Eugene 04.06.2011

35 9.80 +1.8 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1 Eugene 24.06.2012

35 9.80 +0.6 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1 Bruxelles 06.09.2013

35 9.80 +0.1 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1rA Lausanne 03.07.2014

40 9.81 ±0.0 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1rA Zürich 28.08.2009

41 9.82 -0.2 Maurice Greene USA 23.07.74 1 Edmonton 05.08.2001

41 9.82 ±0.0 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1rA Monaco 29.07.2008

41 9.82 +1.4 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Rieti 07.09.2008

41 9.82 +1.4 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Szczecin 15.09.2009

41 9.82 +0.6 Asafa Powell JAM 23.11.82 1 Roma 10.06.2010

41 9.82 +0.5 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1rA Lausanne 08.07.2010

41 9.82 ±0.0 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1r3 Zürich 08.09.2011

41 9.82 +0.1 Yohan Blake JAM 26.12.89 1 Berlin 11.09.2011

41 9.82 +1.8 Usain Bolt JAM 21.08.86 1rA Kingston 05.05.2012

41 9.82 +0.7 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1s1 London 05.08.2012

41 9.82 +1.7 Richard Thompson TTO 07.06.85 1r A Port of Spain 21.06.2014

41 9.82 -0.1 Justin Gatlin USA 10.02.82 1rA Linz 14.07.2014

wejo wrote:

Smith has a much more negative view abroad than he does here. The Brits were up in arms when they learned Mo Farah was meeting with him.

Looks like Larry Wade and Torri Edwards tested positive and were coached by Smith.

However, I think more people are concerned about Mo Greene's admitting to paying Angel Heredia $10,000, a known steroid supplier, and the close association between Greene and Smith.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/greene-coach-tracked-victor-conte-article-1.283208

This claims Smith and Victor Conte had a business relationship as did Ato Boldon.

http://www.cstv.com/sports/c-track/stories/052404aai.html

That NYDaily News article is a good read.

To be fair, lots of coaches and athletes have had some doping associations, but were never directly involved in doping themselves. I know a well known retired athlete who trained with a tainted coach and along side athletes who were doping, but she never did so herself. I personably trained with a doper for a short period of time and I never doped. Also, Victor Conte (BALCO) was the most respected nutritional supplement company long before he got involved in steroids and continued selling legit nutritional supplements even while running a doping program.

Can't believe anyone signed him at 32. Also, John Smith is a crap coach.

Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:

Gay served his ban.

He trusted someone whom he should not have trusted. In the end, he was screwed by someone else.

At the end of the day, he acquired great muscle mass in the weight room and not through pills.

Of course SKINNY distance runners won't understand but I look forward to see the 2nd fastest man of all time compete again.

Charlie Francis exposed a lot of people many years ago. John Smith was a juicer back in the 70's. It's doubtful he's changed. LOL

As a general comparison an Armstrong/Bolt comparison is pretty good. The federation is/was 100% supporting the athletes winning. Never testing positive is no problem. And we know IAAF is thoroughly corrupted.

I'd argue when Bolt retires nothing changes. Like Armstrong, Bolt makes it into the ball sports wrap-up shows. That's about it. IAAF likes to talk a big game, but they ride the Olympic wave (get a solid commission) and not much changes.

Which, is exactly why USATF would never test either positive. This was basically the JADCO system. Test the athletes to be sure they don't test positive when they leave Jamaica. We already know USATF allegedly hid positives.

Do I *KNOW* Gay is doping? No. No way. IAAF and USATF give me no confidence the elite level sport isn't awash in dope. IOC itself has hidden positives to protect their revenue. So, the most likely answer is yes, he's doping.

The stats posted above are the perfect example of just how doubtful it is those are clean times. I really do want it to be different. It would be nice to recommend an elite sport that's clean-ish.

Good posts all around. All I'll add is that I'll be glad when the mega-star Bolt is gone. He popularized Bolt, not track and field.

I'd be willing to bet that even though everyone can point to their own heroes, it was professional rivalries that got them excited to participate in the sport. Lebron was more of a *star* that everyone wanted to be when it was him against the world. Bulls-Pistons was bigger than MJ alone (a jumpstart, at least).

Bolt dominating was not good. It was good for 15 second mentions on sportscenter, but for kids wanting to be part of it, they need to feel like there is room at the top, that the best can be challenged (by themselves one day inn the future).

I may be wrong. Not a scientist. Just my observations.

onceagain wrote:

Nike signed Tyson Gay today and sent him to John Smith who is a Nike coach who has had multiple athletes test positive for drugs.

What does this say about the company and there care for PED's?

https://twitter.com/StuartMcMillan1/status/578732320145838080

Editor's note: We have changed the title of this thread. Initially it was titled, "Nike signs drug cheat Tyson Gay- sends him to drug coach." but that is incorrect. Tyson Gay is training with coach Smith but hasn't signed a deal with Nike.

Chris Chavez has an ESPN article confirming Gay is with Smith.

http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/12525837/former-us-sprint-champion-tyson-gay-working-renowned-coach-john-smith

Additionally, Chavez texted me and said Gay doesn't have a deal with Nike- "Tyson is not with Nike at the moment"

That is Gay.

Gay and Gatlin are BOTH signed by Nike and it will be public soon.