Alan Webb 3.5 hours from first world cup (abu dhabi) start, listen free online

mola, gomez, brownlees, murray are the best runners in tri but they would not make their national running teams for 5 or 10k. and not close to international running levels.

alistair brownlee ran stanford invite last year and was 2nd in the slow heat in 28:30. years ago perhaps they could have crossed over and made both international teams but now there is too much specialization in both sports.

the last, and only tri star to run and tri at international levels was canadian, carol montgomery in the 90's. she ran 10k on the track for canada and made their olympic team. but that was BEFORE the modern day world cup racing of now. world cups triathlon only started in 1994/95 and back then swim/bike specialists could build a huge lead and solo off the front to win. super tri runners were far and few in between and world cups had not evolved. now that would be impossible.

simon lessing was the first to really blow the doors open run split wise in the mid and late 90's. in the future, half the field at world cups will be running as fast as mola. its the evolution of the sport..

Webb's body stopped responding to training in 2008. He's done.

What would that 14:03 tri "5K" convert to on an accurately measured track? 16:00?

What Webb needs is a good coach, maybe Ben Greenfield is available?

Alan is way back, baby!

Chase Group wrote:

Webb needs to figure out how to stick with a chase group on the bike. Riding solo is always going to set you back a long way.

I thought you got penalized for drafting in a tri?

village idiot wrote:

Chase Group wrote:

Webb needs to figure out how to stick with a chase group on the bike. Riding solo is always going to set you back a long way.

I thought you got penalized for drafting in a tri?

not in ITU races.

not even national class wrote:

simon lessing was the first to really blow the doors open run split wise in the mid and late 90's. in the future, half the field at world cups will be running as fast as mola. its the evolution of the sport..

Benjamin Paredes ran duathlons and may have done some tris. He would be more than blown the doors off of a tri 10k run. His marathon PR is ~2:10 (NYC 2nd place on 1994 in 2:11ish), and 15 k at 42:45. * I can't track down a 10k tri for Parades, maybe someone else has some info.

* (http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2488139&page=1)

Is Olympic Triathlon essentially a swim with a cutoff (either you make the top group or you don't), everyone bikes together and drafts (with maybe a little sprinting), and then a run?

Can't believe I know so little about this? Does drafting make for better TV.

Sounds like that would make it a duathlon with good swimmers and runners being the best? What am I missing?

Anyone who follows this want to give us a breakdown on the 2016 Olympic team? I think most people don't even know how the process works and they'll most want to know if Webb or Verzbicas have any chance.

trijunkie wrote:

He's one of a few triathletes who can do this. Allistair and Jonathon Brownlee (GB) and Gomez (ESP) have all split b/w just under 14 and 14:15 a several times. Allistair being the best of them.

Here are two of the best finishes I've ever found. One of them includes today's winner and 2 of the guys mentioned above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBgzMgob5Gwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm04y-F5UXM

Awesome links. Watched the world champs sprint finish between J Brownlee and Gomez a few times already. Such a classic finish.

wejo wrote:

Is Olympic Triathlon essentially a swim with a cutoff (either you make the top group or you don't), everyone bikes together and drafts (with maybe a little sprinting), and then a run?

Can't believe I know so little about this? Does drafting make for better TV.

Sounds like that would make it a duathlon with good swimmers and runners being the best? What am I missing?

Anyone who follows this want to give us a breakdown on the 2016 Olympic team? I think most people don't even know how the process works and they'll most want to know if Webb or Verzbicas have any chance.

Yes, Olympic Triathlon is essentially a swim with a cutoff. Sprint triathlon even more so. And yes, it makes for more exciting racing. It's a swim to separate the field a bit, and cycling race with team tactics, and then a running race.

Olympic Triathlon is turning into a bit of a team sport. National bodies with government funding are recruiting bike specialist triathletes and selecting them for world championships and Olympics / Commonwealth Games to help out the top 2 competitors in their teams in swim cut-off scenarios, bike break away scenarios, and generally being the work horse on the bike and making up numbers in the run.

In the Commonwealth Games Triathlon last year New Zealand's cyclist missed the cut off after the swim and rode 2/5 laps solo. Caught the main race pack with the top 2 NZ competitors and then after a half lap "rest" in the pack, lead the chase pack for laps 3 and 4, before the other riders took over on the last lap. He didn't even start the run...

FYI, the courses are lapped for better television and spectator coverage. And if you get lapped on the bike you get disqualified (like a Criterium bike race)

Athletics makes a big mistake keeping on to bib sponsorship. This is how you make athletes recognizable!

Who is the recipient of a bib number? Officials and timekeepers.

Unless athletics's administration remains so self-centered they deserve to govern a dying sport.

Same with biathlon and nordic skiing, btw. These biathlon federation nailed it early on.

So the kiwi biker from the Commonwealth Games has given up triathlon and trying to focus on cycling (was behind in the swim because of a kick to the ribs during it which injured him):

Swimming is very important and if you aren't in the main group the race is over. Amzing how little people know about this event in regards to ITU racing. Unfortunately I can't see Webb or Verzbecis making the team. I will be surprised if US gets the 3 allocated spots. By the way the future of the sport is fast as the athlete that won the race was a 14:10 5k runner as a junior athlete. One of Australia's top triathlete ran a 8:08 3k on the track at 17.

Is Alan Webb faster now than ZlV was before his crash? Significantly so? Is LV getting back? Haven't heard anything out of him in a while.

As another data point, Alan's bike split was 1 second slower than the winning woman's.

The bike is obviously not that important in a triathlon, but you need basic skills. I was looking at a picture of Alan on the bike on his twitter account. His position on the bike is terrible. It's as if he has not had any wind tunnel analysis done... Riding alone was probably pretty painful for him.

That's the big difference between being in a pack and not being in a pack.