Then why did Justin Gatlin only run 4.45 and 4.42 in the NFL combine in 2008?
This has been discussed here before; see this Letsrun thread:
Then why did Justin Gatlin only run 4.45 and 4.42 in the NFL combine in 2008?
This has been discussed here before; see this Letsrun thread:
fwiw wrote:
Clearly a world class sprinter is going to beat a football player in a 40y but as someone else mentioned the really big difference happens from 60-100m where the NFL guys really start crawling and the sprinter slows down relatively little.
I think right around 1990 Ismael "The Rocket" Raghib - widely considered the fastest guy in football - I think he was still at Notre Dame - ran a 100m race at the Penn Relays. He was fairly close to the leaders at 50m but got crushed the second 50.
That is correct; I was there.
In the Rocket's defense, when he ran the Penn Relays that year, he was not in top track shape, he was still carrying some of his football weight. The Rocket could have been a legit world class sprinter had he focused on track. The Rocket was a 10.2 100m sprinter, which made him one of the fastest sprinters in the NCAA and the fastest football player in the NFL draft that year.
Flo'da boy wrote:
Pro sprinters Ryan Bailey and training partner Joe Morris allegedly run 4.06 and 4.09 40y dashes in practice
https://twitter.com/joe_morris_/status/570415198562988034
Now if Track & Field can only market itself better so they can get paid and make running really fast actually mean something...
The point you are making is correct, but most of your details aren't; e.g.:
1. re: "Nehemiah era everyone else raced for 2nd place" He did have completion, Skeets never won an Olympic medal and did have competition especially with Greg Foster.
2. re: "Probably an even better 60m hurdler" He was not a great 60m hurdler. As a pro, he didn't really focus on indoors; he ran some fast indoor times, but that was while he was in college.
3. re: "Shows up at Candlestick" He did what any undrafted athlete does which is arrange a workout; in 1982 he worked out for several NFL teams and had an appointment to workout for the 49s.
4. re: "I think he only played that one year and was never heard from in either sport again!" Skeets spent 3 years with the 49s, he caught some tough down passes from Joe Montana, won a Superbowl ring and was only let go when they drafted Jerry Rice.
Other than that, I get what you are saying.
Nehemiah came back to world ranking level after his football. T think he ranked ranking top five from 89 to 91 and 13,20ish times.
Did Skeets even hang around MLF long enough to get into the NFL retirement plan? Think you had to be under contract for five years to vest.
Guy I met shopped himself around for basically any $ he could get his retirement eligibility year just to get in the NFL plan. I think he even tied working in the team office the next year at 15- 20 grand today money. Said it was worth it in the long run.
coach d wrote:
Consider that in Bolt's 9.58, he split 4.64 for 40 meters, which puts his 40y split at about 4.35 FAT.
So, with that 4.06 speed, how much did Bailey beat Bolt by?
It's all the fine art of lying. Charlie Francis said that when he timed Ben, he started the stopwatch at the first step and added 0.6 to predict a FAT equivalent. And what Charlie did is basically what the Combine does, except they forget to add that 0.6. When you see those 40y times, just add 0.6 to get an honest time.
If you honestly believe any of those times faster that Bolt's 9.58 split, you get the horse laugh.
Bolt came through 60m in something like 6.31 or 6.32 in his 9.58 run. Keep in mind that this is the fastest 60m split of all time too......
NFL combine times aren't FAT. They are off by at least .3 or so. 4.35 FAT is worth at least 4.05, and probably even faster than that.
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