I think we all knew there's plenty of crossover between the Ultra crowd and stoners. But apparently smoking while running is now a thing?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-debate-over-running-while-high-1423500590?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories
I think we all knew there's plenty of crossover between the Ultra crowd and stoners. But apparently smoking while running is now a thing?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-debate-over-running-while-high-1423500590?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories
It has been a "thing" since the early '70's, at least.
This is new to you? Unless you are suffering from obsessive compulsive personality disorder, how else would you keep from getting bored slogging through all those 8-9 minute miles, or slower?
Junk Master wrote:
This is new to you? Unless you are suffering from obsessive compulsive personality disorder, how else would you keep from getting bored slogging through all those 8-9 minute miles, or slower?
Nice troll attempt. If you look up Avery's times you would see he is incredibly fast. He is a professional ultra runner.
mountain high wrote:
Junk Master wrote:This is new to you? Unless you are suffering from obsessive compulsive personality disorder, how else would you keep from getting bored slogging through all those 8-9 minute miles, or slower?
Nice troll attempt. If you look up Avery's times you would see he is incredibly fast. He is a professional ultra runner.
Wow a PRO ULTRA RUNNER? He must have hundreds of thousands in prize money and contracts!
asdfadsfddsf wrote:
mountain high wrote:Nice troll attempt. If you look up Avery's times you would see he is incredibly fast. He is a professional ultra runner.
Wow a PRO ULTRA RUNNER? He must have hundreds of thousands in prize money and contracts!
In case you haven't noticed, it's not just pro ultrarunners that are broke. Most pro runners are, unless they are with the big shoe companies, and even then for most it's unimpressive. No need to be a d*ck about ultrarunners
No troll attempt. MOST ultra-runners DO NOT do their daily mileage any faster than 8 minutes per mile, especially when trail running, which the majority do. Why do they trail run? Because it's less boring and more fun when you are HIGH.
Weed has been part of the Ultra aesthetic from the beginning. It's the equivalent of Pabst Blue Ribbon for hipsters. There would be no Ultra running without weed.
Well, as stated above, the only ones left would be obsessive/compulsives, cutters and other self-abusers, or reformed drug and alcohol abusers.
But hey, you CAN get pretty fast if you slog 140 miles a week up grades exceeding 15%.
Who is Ultra Running's archetypal figure, not the fastest, or the best, but the one who most embodies the sport's exaggerated essence, their Pre?
Anton Krupicka...need I say more?
I've never smoked it, but would with Jenn Shelton.
I'm a hobby jogger for all intensive porpoises but I like to smoke hella weed and hit the trails too. One thing I don't like about the article is that they keep saying weed numbs pain, which is not really true in my experience. Weed somehow helps one cope with pain, but "numbing" is not really the way it happens. This is hard to explain to people who never smoke weed and are only familiar with pharmaceutical pain-killers. I think this point is important because "numbing" implies that one is less aware of pain, which is actually a bad thing. In that way it is subtly negative, and I suspect people who make statements like that are coming from an anti-pot viewpoint. The way I would describe the affect is that pot decouples the emotional and physical components of pain signals. The pain is still there but you can address it more rationally rather than freaking out about it and causing your body more stress, due to your emotional reaction to it. Anyway that's my take.
So would you say that would give you a competitive advantage in a race?
hellaweed runner wrote:
I think this point is important because "numbing" implies that one is less aware of pain, which is actually a bad thing. In that way it is subtly negative, and I suspect people who make statements like that are coming from an anti-pot viewpoint.
Way to live up to the stereotype of over-accusing everyone else of being "anti-pot". Surprised that you didn't also work in some sort of superior comparison to alcohol as well!
ultras are generally for people that arent competitive, so I can see that. Take a nice long hike and smoke some weed on top of a mountain, but call it "running".
Avery Collins' performances are a joke to any serious competitive ultrarunner. He is professional? No wonder people make fun of our sport. It would be like a 20min 5k runner - who cherry picks low-key races and thinks they are "good" - to call themselves professional. Come run Lake Sonoma or North Face and he'll maybe crack top 30.
A pro? Seriously? wrote:
Avery Collins' performances are a joke to any serious competitive ultrarunner. He is professional? No wonder people make fun of our sport. It would be like a 20min 5k runner - who cherry picks low-key races and thinks they are "good" - to call themselves professional. Come run Lake Sonoma or North Face and he'll maybe crack top 30.
Avery Collins won the Sean O'Brien 50 mile this year. Also has a facebook athlete page and has sponsors. There are plenty of runners who did not place in the top 30 at North Face who are also sponsored. So what does that prove? Avery is also a rebel by openly admitting he uses pot to help his training. Takes a lot of balls to do that. People may say it does not help, he is proving them wrong by breaking out strong in ultra running. Bet he has some big races planned to show everyone how good he is. He is no joke.
Junk Master wrote:
No troll attempt. MOST ultra-runners DO NOT do their daily mileage any faster than 8 minutes per mile, especially when trail running, which the majority do. Why do they trail run? Because it's less boring and more fun when you are HIGH.
Weed has been part of the Ultra aesthetic from the beginning. It's the equivalent of Pabst Blue Ribbon for hipsters. There would be no Ultra running without weed.
Well, as stated above, the only ones left would be obsessive/compulsives, cutters and other self-abusers, or reformed drug and alcohol abusers.
But hey, you CAN get pretty fast if you slog 140 miles a week up grades exceeding 15%.
Who is Ultra Running's archetypal figure, not the fastest, or the best, but the one who most embodies the sport's exaggerated essence, their Pre?
Anton Krupicka...need I say more?
You are wrong on just about everything.
Weed part of the ultra aesthetic? I ran dozens of trail ultras and never encountered any mention of weed. I'm sure some use it, but not a huge amount partake.
No ultra running without weed? Please. Ultra running has been around since, basically, forever. You are maybe thinking of the trail running segment of ultra-running, and like I said, even there you are wrong.
Most ultra-runners don't run faster than 8:00/mile? Probably true, technically, but that's probably also true of runners in general.
Obsessive-compulsives, reformed alcoholics, "cutters" and self-abusers? There may be some in ultra-running. Everybody has their issues in life. Never heard of any "cutters". How about the mainstream running population? They're not exactly the coolest, hippest people on the planet, either - or free from OCD, alcoholism, etc.
Anton Krupicka is ultra-running's "archetypal figure"? I was unaware of that. I think of him as one of many good trail ultrarunners. If I had to pick THE archetypal figure in ultrarunning, I'd go with Yiannis Kouros, with Ann Trason representing the women's side.
I've smoked weed right before races and training runs. It seems to be more effective in longer events - half marathon in particular. Like the guy in the article says, it makes the miles go by faster. It's easier to zone out and just run.
I once had an operation and ended up with unneeded painkillers (Percocet) once I recovered. Months later I took one before a 5k and it was extremely effective, to the point where I had no doubt it was performance-enhancing.
I used to not think Ultra Runners were elite athletes, but now the WSJ has called them super athletes! They must be amazing!
Love how the "but I don't race on it" excuse gets tossed around by mj users in this article. Would they be willing to forgive dopers who claim they "never raced on it?" LOL.
Tony K doesn't smoke weed. I don't blame you for assuming he does, though.
In 7:35? A time which would've gotten him 10th last year and barely in front of the female winner? In a sub-par field vs last year? What a talent!