Mo, Galen are you ready? Zane Robertson's got big 10,000 plans: "I would really like to challenge for a gold medal"

george oscar bluth wrote:

Master of Rupp's Underpants wrote:

LOL, Rupp fanboys are working overtime to justify why Rupp is unbeatable, at any, and all distances, by anyone, no matter how much faster they have run a distance than Rupp ever has.

Rupp fanboys: please loosen your ultra-tight Rupp super-elf underpants. The loss of blood flood is affecting your thinking abilities.

You are responding to me? I cheer for basically any other American over Rupp. I don't think that's what you call a fan.

Please point out where I am justifying that Rupp is unbeatable, at any and all distances, no matter how much faster they have run a distance than Rupp ever has.

You are doing that by ignoring the fact that the 10k time you provided for Hall was near his pace for the whole half marathon. You refuse to consider that Hall might have been able to run 30 seconds faster in a nontactical 10k opportunity (what Rupp had).

Also, your reasoning about Hall not being able to beat Rupp in a kick that year is also bad. Rupp didn't have a kickback then. He was getting out kicked by guys like Josh McDougal!

I heard that Zane is racing a 5,000 at home this month. What's the deal with that race? The link from his interview goes to the homepage of some kiwi news site.

newname wrote:It looks like Ngugi had a 13:22 PR in 1988 before he won the Olympic Title in Seoul (in 13:11.70). But the WR was 12:58 at the time and was set just the year before. His 13:11.70 was the fastest 5k of 1988 and the slowest list-leader in seven years (since 1980 - Miruts Yifter - 13:16.38)

that is misleading

he had a prelim 5k in his legs & basically ran the final as a solo effort with a huge early/mid race surge in brutal heat/humidity

there is little doubt he couda run ~ 13-flat in a fully rested ideally paced/drafted effort on a temperate day on the circuit in that shape

ventolin^3 wrote:

newname wrote:It looks like Ngugi had a 13:22 PR in 1988 before he won the Olympic Title in Seoul (in 13:11.70). But the WR was 12:58 at the time and was set just the year before. His 13:11.70 was the fastest 5k of 1988 and the slowest list-leader in seven years (since 1980 - Miruts Yifter - 13:16.38)

that is misleading

he had a prelim 5k in his legs & basically ran the final as a solo effort with a huge early/mid race surge in brutal heat/humidity

there is little doubt he couda run ~ 13-flat in a fully rested ideally paced/drafted effort on a temperate day on the circuit in that shape

YES, I realize he could have done this. The whole post was to show that someone whose BEST SO FAR is 13:13 stands no chance in the WC or Olympics (referring to Zane Robertson). That is why I wrote this:

"Since then I believe every winner of a 5k has had a better PR and every winner of the 10k have had a comparatively better mark in the 10k.

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The Ngugi example was just being statistically FAIR and giving the last example of when someone had medaled and had a slower PR than 13:13.

Even though he ran 4 more years and every one of them he ran REMARKABLY similar times to 1988 ...

I will defer to you since you always know how fast someone really would have been.

Since TO YOU every runner who ever lived was faster than their actual times, it would be fair to say that Zane Robertson is faster than his heretofore 13:13 PR.

he is racing Nick Willis, his twin bro Jake Robertson, Augustine Choge and Mekonnen Gebremedhin in Auckland on the 26th, few Australians are coming out to race too and also Jakes girlfriend Magdalene Masai is racing the womens 1500m. They are aiming for qualifying the world champs for the 5 and also smashing the NZ record to pieces. Im going to watch, going to be nuts.

newname wrote:Since TO YOU every runner who ever lived was faster than their actual times

that woud be obvious to anyone who follows the sport given a legit track/timing

the only question is by how much

ryanballinger wrote:

he is racing Nick Willis, his twin bro Jake Robertson, Augustine Choge and Mekonnen Gebremedhin in Auckland on the 26th, few Australians are coming out to race too and also Jakes girlfriend Magdalene Masai is racing the womens 1500m. They are aiming for qualifying the world champs for the 5 and also smashing the NZ record to pieces. Im going to watch, going to be nuts.

I saw on twitter yesterday that Wheating is running in NZ too or something- is it the same meet?

same meet, he is entered in the 800m.

ryanballinger wrote:

same meet, he is entered in the 800m.

Looks like those Kiwis have tougher competition to deal with... Hassan Mead running 5k

bring it on! #sub13