newname wrote:It looks like Ngugi had a 13:22 PR in 1988 before he won the Olympic Title in Seoul (in 13:11.70). But the WR was 12:58 at the time and was set just the year before. His 13:11.70 was the fastest 5k of 1988 and the slowest list-leader in seven years (since 1980 - Miruts Yifter - 13:16.38)
that is misleading
he had a prelim 5k in his legs & basically ran the final as a solo effort with a huge early/mid race surge in brutal heat/humidity
there is little doubt he couda run ~ 13-flat in a fully rested ideally paced/drafted effort on a temperate day on the circuit in that shape
YES, I realize he could have done this. The whole post was to show that someone whose BEST SO FAR is 13:13 stands no chance in the WC or Olympics (referring to Zane Robertson). That is why I wrote this:
"Since then I believe every winner of a 5k has had a better PR and every winner of the 10k have had a comparatively better mark in the 10k.
The Ngugi example was just being statistically FAIR and giving the last example of when someone had medaled and had a slower PR than 13:13.
Even though he ran 4 more years and every one of them he ran REMARKABLY similar times to 1988 ...http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/john-ngugi-2046#progression
I will defer to you since you always know how fast someone really would have been.
Since TO YOU every runner who ever lived was faster than their actual times, it would be fair to say that Zane Robertson is faster than his heretofore 13:13 PR.