I know who you are and where you live so don't answer if you have NOT done BOTH
1) basic training the US: Army Navy Air Force Coast Guard
2) are a Frat brother.
NOTE: We already know Marines are the toughest so don't need to answer this question.
I know who you are and where you live so don't answer if you have NOT done BOTH
1) basic training the US: Army Navy Air Force Coast Guard
2) are a Frat brother.
NOTE: We already know Marines are the toughest so don't need to answer this question.
Pleding is 1000 times harder because everyone you know from the team and labs gets to watch.
The real question is which is the bigger bunch of queers
I hate the intentinla embrassment part of pledging. It's childish and unnecessary for adults.
Honoring you dignity, CROSSFIT directly mirrors Delta Force and SEALS training, which has a high standards and respect for adults.
I would say pledging.
While basic training will likely push the average American to his limits (not so much for lifetime athletes), the pledging process is daunting.
First, in order to pledge, you have to have come to the realization, and acceptance, that you're a worthless human being.
Second, while basic training is physically demanding, at least it's supervised, and ensured to be safe. Your future "brothers," on the other hand, are probably too drunk to recognize themselves in a mirror, and will gladly help you reach that plateau as well. You may be streaking in sub-zero temperatures, stealing, or anything else that may land you in prison, or an early grave.
Those 5am wakeup calls are starting to sound better and better.
That, and going to bed with my self-respect intact.
Basic Training was not difficult. Staying awake on limited sleep was the hardest part.
Never pledged a frat but know a few people that did. That didn't seem too bad either. Then again, here in CA, we kind of have "frat light".
They modern army has girls in the Parajumps, Airbornes, Jets, SEALS, Mountain/Subzeros, Frog Divers, Green Berets, aircraft carrier captains, CIA agents, and nuclear missiliers, DEA officers, Secret Service commandoes, SWAT Teamsters, etc. What other evidence do you need?
CoachB wrote:
Basic Training was not difficult. Staying awake on limited sleep was the hardest part.
Never pledged a frat but know a few people that did. That didn't seem too bad either. Then again, here in CA, we kind of have "frat light".
I know people who got out of shape during basic training. Weak workout regimen, but yes annoying sleep hours.
Pledging to a Frat obviously.
It's hard to convince Mom and Dad they need to pay for friends you can party with.
Truethat. wrote:
CoachB wrote:Basic Training was not difficult. Staying awake on limited sleep was the hardest part.
Never pledged a frat but know a few people that did. That didn't seem too bad either. Then again, here in CA, we kind of have "frat light".
I know people who got out of shape during basic training. Weak workout regimen, but yes annoying sleep hours.
Yeah, I gained 20 pounds in the 10 weeks I was there (including reception station).
I never seen so many free cakes, pies, and ice cream for desert at Ft Ord basic, and no limit on how much desert you can shovel down your throat. There was a time limit though.
Are you $h!ttiing me? You goons think frat pledging is harder than basic? I guess I shudnt be surprised considering your all a bunch of pimple faced losers.
None of you asswhites would last a week of basic. Oh an ps don't tell anyone ur a frat boy in basic unless u like eatin turds lol. You think chuggin beers is hard? Try getting ur face screamed off by a guy who's taken scalps in nam. Pathetic.
i did a summer of boot camp training for an ROTC program equivilent to US army basic training, pledged a fraternity my freshman year, and am a d1 college distance runner, so f**k all you pussies- i can actually give an accurate perspective on this question.
pledging is more of a psychological game than anything else. once you're a brother you realize that it's actually mostly smoke and mirrors- but during pledging they make you feel like your life depends on getting tasks done, surviving line-ups, memorizing the fraternity handbook, and stuff like that. line-ups are brutal- they can keep you in the basement until sunrise making you chug liquor till you vomit, do pushups, wall sits, elbow planks, and all other kinds of physical and psychological torture. the upside to pledging is despite all this, you bond with your pledge brothers on a level you just can't describe from the inside looking out. plus you get to go to exclusive parties, mixers, a formals with hot sorority girls that you never had a chance to be involved with before pledging. and once you're a brother, college life is amazing.
basic training is comparable to the physical distress of pledging but without all the drinking, mind games, and fun parties. lots of pushups, drills, and (which brings me to my last point) running.
being a d1 collegiate distance runner is the most rewarding- but also the most difficult (if you want to be good) - of any of these things. running 60-70 mile weeks, being in the weight room or pool 4-5 times a week, resisting the temptations of going out to party the nights leading up to races, and crushing workouts- THAT's hard physically, and mentally. i have modest pr's of 3:52 and 14:40 so i don't claim to be a stud- but i'm doing my best to get the most out of college on and off the track.
to answer the op's question- pledging is harder than basic.
Ft Ord wrote:
I never seen so many free cakes, pies, and ice cream for desert at Ft Ord basic, and no limit on how much desert you can shovel down your throat. There was a time limit though.
Eating all of that desert seems tough. Do you at least get water with it? I assume it heavily features sand but does it also include things such as cactus and desert creatures? Was it mostly local desert or did they change it up by offering cuisine featuring deserts around the world? If you can provide an email, I have a number of other questions about this.
Pleadging a frat was harder than Army bootcamp. It was the anal penetration that made it so much worse. (though that got easier each time).
anyone who is insecure enough to join a stupid frat is a pathetic, easily-led twat.
I wonder what Dessert is like at Frat houses, do their desserts compare to this?
Can anybody out there comment to what their experience was like with dessert in college frat houses. Banana splits? Chocolate Fudge?
Kris Krinkle wrote:
Are you $h!ttiing me? You goons think frat pledging is harder than basic? I guess I shudnt be surprised considering your all a bunch of pimple faced losers.
None of you asswhites would last a week of basic. Oh an ps don't tell anyone ur a frat boy in basic unless u like eatin turds lol. You think chuggin beers is hard? Try getting ur face screamed off by a guy who's taken scalps in nam. Pathetic.
Just curious as to the derivation of the term "asswhite". Considering the vast majority of LetsRun does in fact have white rear ends, I fail to understand the insult in your jeer. Really fascinating stuff you learn at basic in just one week! Can we get a LetsRun community search to make sure he didn't take this term and claim it as his own without properly citing to the original author?
I haven't 'gone' to basic per se but I've done some basic things in my life. I drive a Dodge Stratus. I have a collection of five Ralph Lauren polos (frat) and I live in a 3 bedroom/2 bath home. I did pledge a fraternity once, in a time long, long ago. And when I joined that fraternity they hazed me once or twice. During that time I cried, I laughed, I vomited, I cried some more, and oddly enough I tickled, a lot. I do imagine though there is probably a fair amount of tickling at basic training as well. During the pledging process it was made very clear to me that it was the most difficult thing I would ever do in my entire life. And up until this point, Brother Bluto has been absolutely right. So if you want to tell Brother Bluto he was wrong then be my guest. But don't be surprised if 'someone' shows up to your work party next year and decides to 'drop a deuce' in your coat pocket that you checked at the door. Brother Bluto is sneaky like that. TFM.
The real question is whether either is even half as difficult as male cheerleading. I was a male cheerleader at a prominent SEC school known for frat hazing, and I defy any of you to tell me their "hazing" activities were more difficult than what I endured. Try holding an overweight sorority girl over your head for the duration of a football game while your drunken friends continually belittle you, then we'll talk about hardship.